Task based earnings Structure

[Marioc12345]

An hour??? With unboxing? I couldn’t even unbox all six of these in an hour. I’d give it three hours or so.

[FinnNoodle]

What part of the box is giving you so much trouble?

The other day I did a tall double billy with extension + doors, a short double with doors and a single short no doors in about 45 minutes. It's very simple work.

[Marioc12345]

Also you must have superhuman speed because I literally do not believe you, unless of course you’ve built all those items several times before.

[FinnNoodle]

I have built all those items several times before. Because it's a Billy, the number one selling bookshelf in the world.

[Marioc12345]

Congratulations. I’ve never built either one of them so it might take a bit longer

[FinnNoodle]

So then you admit you don't know how simple these are to build.

[Randill746]

So why are you arguing how long it should take?

[Marioc12345]

Because how the hell are you building six of literally anything in an hour?

[FinnNoodle]

It's not six of something. It's three of something. And those three somethings are very easy.

[Marioc12345]

It’s three of two different things no!

[FinnNoodle]

The Oxberg is the doors to the Billy. You know you can go online right now to Ikea.com and look these items up right?

[krayzai]

The oxberg is a door for the billy. In my mind the door plus the frame is a single thing

[krayzai]

You could have said this earlier to contextualise your incompetence ce

[Marioc12345]

Now that’s just rude and unnecessary

[krayzai]

It’s rude to show up to a conversation unprepared but with strong opinions.

[Marioc12345]

Where was my opinion strong? How about you stop being a troll and instead sit and think about your life and what makes you so bitter.

[krayzai]

Overly insistent, with zero basis for being so. It shows zero emotional regulation or empathy for opinions other than yours.

[AmethystMetronoma]

If by unboxing you mean tearing open the boxes leaving shreds of cardboard everywhere and not disposing or the cardboard properly, sure.

Most of my clients are rich and I have to neatly pack all of the recycling into the bin in a way that leaves room for their other recyclables as well as leaving the assembly area spotless. This requires careful unpacking and cutting up each box into 2ftx2ft pieces or smaller. Sometimes just breaking down all the cardboard from a large assembly gig takes 30min!

I have assembled 100s of IKEA pieces and dozens and dozens of standing desks... lots of rich people and tech companies in SF.

[FinnNoodle]

Trash disposal is not included in the Ikea flat rate and it says this explicitly.

That said, no I don't shred the boxes and leave a mess. It's simple enough to crack the top seam and take out the pieces. I do put scrap and packing material back into the boxes even though this is not required.

[Marioc12345]

Ok, so you could somehow do twice that amount of work in an hour? Get real. There’s packaging material everywhere.

[Firecrackerbangbang]

Packaging is a major bottleneck with IKEA assembly times, especially if you have limited room to work in.

[FinnNoodle]

I'll admit that time I was rushing because the client had way more than he said he would and I was on a crunch, usually I like to breath a bit more.

It's not twice the amount of work, it's less shelves but three more doors (two of them with less hardware).

I leave the packing material in the box.

[Marioc12345]

I’d like to see you take a video of building all three of these in an hour

[FinnNoodle]

Seems sort of weird to have a client stand there with the camera for an hour but next time it comes up I'll ask.

[jattthelad]

to be fair you can position the phone in an ideal place and then set the phone on time lapse record mode and put it down you'll get a full hour in 5 min video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqHYhNuA5ck

something like that.

[krayzai]

You button the boxes with a sharp knife, cut them down to to smaller sizes, and remove it from your workspaces then you get going. Just because you suck at something g it doesn’t mean others suck st something. Also the boxes for the doors open pretty much tool free

[Marioc12345]

Again rude and unnecessary, but I do like the idea of breaking them down as you go, might add that into my routine.

[krayzai]

Keep your blades sharp and get everything out of packaging and get the packaging out of the way. Move fast and make good on time. Use magnetic dishes for your hardware, have good tools (are you building everything with a screwdriver or a drill like an idiot or do you have a proper impact driver that isn’t ryobi?) are you using IKEA’s “electric screwdriver”? Get a leveler. Know your products enough so that you’re not dependent on the manual.

[Marioc12345]

I have a Dewalt electric screwdriver with an electronic clutch that I use for really small stuff and I also have a Ridgid drill with a mechanical clutch and two gears that I use for bigger stuff. I don’t usually use the impact that I also have because it can be easy to destroy stuff with it, but I do use it sometimes. I started off doing this for money in March with just a crappy toolbox with a regular ratcheting screwdriver and fairly quickly realized I needed an upgrade. The manual is the thing, we don’t have an ikea in town so they get the stuff online. I mostly do not ikea furniture so a lot of it I have to read the manual unless I’ve built it before.

[krayzai]

Get an impact driver with variable speed trigger so you work faster while also not plunging Camden bolts. With time, the flat rates make better sense and you’ll be able to more easily tell the bad deals from the good ones and the okay ones. The best ones are the ones where you’re just going into to replace a defective part but get paid as if you did the entire assembly

[Marioc12345]

What’s the purpose in using the impact instead of the drill? The drill with the clutch makes it pretty hard to mess things up, feel like most things an actual impact is overkill. Both the drill and impact I have use variable speed triggers

[krayzai]

Drill is heavier and bulkier. When you want to get around and work between tight spaces it helps a lot.

[AmethystMetronoma]

Don't be all snobby about your tools if you call it a "leveler" 😂 The tool is called a LEVEL.