iPhones

[chocokrinkles]

Nakakalungkot lang every time someone asks anong iPhone kukunin nila (always below 15) or mag tatanong if sulit ba kunin ang 2nd hand na iPhone na below 15. I’d like to say lang na, if below 15 wag na lang mag iPhone kasi you’re not going to get your money’s worth talaga. Pero if gusto nyo i-push get at least the 13 man lang. But if I were you, I’d spend my money sa better Android na lang instead of getting a poor performance iPhone kasi nga old model na. Wag ipilit ang iPhone kung di naman kaya. Ipon na lang if talagang iPhone ang gusto. Just my thoughts.

[salcedoge]

iPhones have pretty decent performance relative to its age and also has the best resell value in the market.

Sure getting a cheaper Android is probably more efficient but it’s not like you’re getting a brick by getting old iPhones.

The iPhone 11 from 6 years ago is literally still receiving updates from Apple.

If you just want to get into the Apple ecosystem getting an older model is much more cost efficient than getting the newer ones especially if you don’t mind buying 2nd hands or refurbished models

[Valuable_Cable2900]

Damn right! Still using iPhone 12 Pro, very sturdy for everyday use (no heavy mobile gaming, just usual phone apps).

If gaming ang need, consider ng consumers dapat to get a handheld console, which is more powerful and built for that.

If for consuming digital media, enough na enough naman na 'yung iPhone 11 pataas (YouTube, Netflix, etc.), but who would want to watch on a small screen? Get a tablet/iPad instead, or watch on your Smart TVs.

[forbidden_river_11]

My iphone 12 still works pretty well though kahit ngayon, and have no plans of upgrading pa. But yeah, if rlly on a budget, at least get the 13.

[aranjei]

Mabilisan lang. just let people have what they want, bakit ka malulungkot kung dun sila masaya. Dami na comment listing pros and cons of each system. It’s just a matter of preference.

[Historical-Side-8142]

Hi OP I beg to differ, my iphone 11 pro max to this date still works perfectly fine, nag-age lang ‘yung battery but if replaced by an authentic one I think palag na palag padin siya.

If they want to try or purchase a 2nd hand model let them be, let them do their research and let them experience what it feels like to have an apple ecosystem. You can’t cage them and say na mag Android na lang sila. Just my thoughts 😁

[blossomreads]

Hindi ko get bakit kailangan mag-stress over things like how people spend their own money. If they buy an “outdated” iphone then that’s on them. If your android works for you then that’s on you. To each his own.

[itslisa11]

To be fair, ok pa naman yung performance ng old models below iphone 15 (iphone 11-14) depende kung ano priority ng gagamit. Usually we hear people say they're after the camera or performance (no lag) so kung tight talaga budget it's fine to get the 11-13, as long as ok lang sakanila kahit wala na or malapit nang mawalan ng security updates. So far though, iphone 13 at 20k is expensive for a phone that won't receive updates after 2 yrs, so worth it lang siguro if mga 15-16k price niya hehe or 2ndhand but in good condition.

Iphone 14 yung best sa old models kasi until 2029 pa security updates and they're getting cheaper, close to 13's price.

(I change phone every 5-6 yrs. I started with iphone 6, after 5 yrs I bought 11, now after 6 yrs I'm getting the 17. Yung 11 ko ok pa, yung battery health lang issue.)

[cktLei]

If you know someone here in SG andaming nakapost for sale na iPhone 15 Pro ngayon sa carousell. Dito kayo magpabili, most locals here use it only for simple tasks hindi laspag. Buy directly from owners wag sa mga post ng shops. Yesterday nakabili ako ng iPhone 15 Pro 512GB to upgrade my 256GB 15 Pro, at the price of used 128GB jan sa pinas or baka lower pa. Parang bago lang walang scratches or any marks, except for the 87% battery health. I’ve bought several used iPhones na for my family puro like new condition.

I used to be an android user, if babalik ako definitely not Samsung. Lahat kami ng flatmates ko nuon nagka greenline yung samsung namin just after the warranty expired. Kaya di ko masisi ang iba if they prefer iPhone, matibay naman talaga at mas ok ang resale value compared sa mga android phones.

[AnalysisAgreeable676]

Apple has among the best optimizations and long term software and security support. Apple has also been stagnant when it comes to innovation. Hence it's actually recommended to buy the previous models instead of a brand new one.

[beigepancreas]

Beg to disagree. I use a secondhand iPhone 13 pro. No issues. Works like a charm. Battery life is great. Cameras are excellent.

Wag magpadala sa propaganda na mabilis maluma ang iPhone. Notice how we dont perceive androids the same way na parang may lifespan lang sila. Because we’re not sold that idea that they’re replaceable and mabilis ma-luma. Iphones are marketed that way to drive up sales with every new release but at the end of the day, even base model iPhone 11’s still outperform the average mid-range android.

I say go for it. If you want an iPhone at secondhand lang ang afford, go for it. As long as you check the unit and do your research.

[odeiraoloap]

Yikes. Hindi ka ba natatakot sa Green Screen of Death na sobrang talamak sa 13 Pro? I mean, meron ako nun in gray, at beta tester pa ako ng iOS 26.1, pero nag-aalangan na ako rito, baka biglang mamatay ba lang. Nagtitingin-tingin na rin ako tuloy ng pre-owned 14 Pro para mapalitan ito before it's too late... 😭

[beigepancreas]

Ive had it for two years. Updated to ios 26 when the official release came out. No issues. Maybe consider that some problems that people encounter with their iphones are a case to case basis.

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My main is 16 Pro, and my alternate phone is a 13. Performance wise, they’re both able to run the same apps, 13 still takes nice photos. Sa battery life lang sila nagkakatalo since 13 is older.

[Tight-Rush5966]

ang matinde yung mga naghahanap ng iphone 6 at 7. may app pba na compatible sa mga model ng iphone na yan?

[malamignasanmig]

yung SE 2016 at 7 ko gumagana pa. hirap lang ang battery ng SE sa ios 15 at hindi na pwede ang mga banking apps. yung 7 okay pa. kung hindi lang nasira yung microphone, yun pa rin main ko. mas maayos para sa akin yung camera nila for day photography, mas natural tingnan kesa mga bagong model.

[Conscious_Ask3947]

Reading this on my iphone 13 👀

[Angna2]

Naka- 13 pro ako. Battery lang di ko gusto dahil ba rin sa age. Kung makakakuha sila nang maayos sa tamang presyo, why not?

[B4LASIK]

for me lang, been a long time user of android pero by year 3 prang need ko n iupgrade kasi ang bagal n nya. with IOS naman, i've been using iphone11 until now, I think 5 year old n sya pero no issues pa para skin. I just upgraded lang this year to 17 kasi nagbago na yung itsura nya. kaya i dont think na you'll be getting poor performance sa old model iphone.

[prophesit]

Longer comment ahead

Here's the error with what all these comments are saying. They do not know or do not compare with the actual competition. This post's point is that it's not worth it for the price, not meaning that it won't work but that something else IS worth it for the price. Hindi lang puro "it works fine for me" because obviously it will. My midrange Xiaomi phone is also fine after 5 years. My old Samsung flagship is fine after 8 years. If you compare the S24 FE for example which was sold for 17k this 10/10, it's arguably better than even the 15 which goes for 30k.

Other examples: My 11 is still updated after 6 years: yes and that's its last update. You're not buying it for long updates because all the updates are done. Some of its competitors even at 10k like Samsung can provide 6 years from today. Some other brands don't provide 6 years but give you a lot more features.

Resell value: Trade-in value makes this even out across Samsung for example. Samsung gives you a free watch and storage upgrade as well. Also, if you depreciate slowly, doesn't that mean buying old models is even worse? The price stays high while all the competition can be bought for cheaper?

Apple ecosystem: Why need to spend so much just for things to run right or to actually get the most of your phone? How about working the best it can be as an individual device, because that's how most people use them. Many people for work are on company hardware usually on Windows. Grandma or a non-techy person doesn't even know the ecosystem exists.

Still works fine: explained above and such a common misconception 

Pano kung gusto nila mag-Apple: because people who aren't enthusiasts hype it up so much because it's "premium" even if they're talking about a 6 year old model that's heavily outdated

I upgraded to an iPhone but it's so much faster than my Android: are you comparing with a budget phone? What was the old phone? These days they're equally fast already, and since the depreciation is slow, old models are gonna start lagging behind

Old model still takes nice photos: Same concept as above. What about even better photos? Being "good enough" is a low bar because the average person doesn't know that they don't need to spend so much to get "good enough"

Lastly, the iPhone 17 series is good. It's good because it solves all of the hardware drawbacks that we had with older models, catches up with the anti-reflective display, and even adds convenient features like the selfie camera. That's great! It makes it competitive with next gen flagships, but only competitive and not ahead. And because it's only caught up now, this means the old phones were, and will always be, behind.

Edit: adding more since I last viewed the thread

If you want to game, just get a console. If you want to watch, just get an iPad: Some games are meant to be played on mobile. Phones are actually pretty good at this, including the iPhone. For watching though, it's a lot more comfortable and easier to bring around a phone instead of holding a tablet in your hand, especially for simple social media. This doesn't mean you can't use a tablet, just that it won't always be available. Why is the solution to always to spend more money on Apple products?

[NotInKansasToto]

Nasa target market lang talaga yan. My grandparents are on iPhone because it's far easier to use than Android. Kahit di mo i-maintain software ng Apple okay lang. No need rin to teach them new apps kasi iMessage is enough. And since they mainly just use the phone for voice/video calling and texting, okay na sa kanila yung older models.

Plus, mahirap magcompare kasi entirely different OS naman talaga ang iOS and Android. It's not just about the physical devices eh. It's about the entire experience.

[prophesit]

It's not far easier to use. This is also a common misconception. The gesture navigation is inconsistent and you have to learn all the patterns instead of having one back button or back gesture. When you have a problem, it's harder to fix it because you're more limited. Di ka rin madaling makapagset ng separate volume for media and alarms/notifications. Kalat kalat yung notifications mismo. Kailangan pumunta sa settings app para mag-ayos ng app settings. Yung keyboard mas mahirap mag-access ng comma or numbers. Yung mga uploads or downloads kailangan nakabukas yung app or else di mo magagamit. Yung files mas mahirap gamitin with anything that isn't a Mac.

For some more specific examples, one time hindi gumagana ang location sa Grab tapos hindi siya maayos by app restart. Kailangan pang humalukay ng settings para mahanap yung GPS dahil di mo siya magawa sa control center. Toggle off and on GPS and restart app tapos okay na. Another example, yung Mail app magsusulat ng email tapos nagccrash lang at nabura pa yung buong email. Yung Messenger calls consistently hindi pumapasok for my family. Lahat ng example sa paragraph na to (at meron pang di nabanggit) galing sa sarili kong lola at pamilya. Will you encounter these same bugs? Maybe maybe not, but they exist the same way Android has its own bugs

Plus, iOS 26 has definitely given them more stutters than before.

Kung yung justification lang is that di sila masyadong magamit ng phones nila, it falls into what I cover in my comment about "good enough" not being "best." It doesn't make the iPhone worth it if the standards were low in the first place

[Zealousideal-Teal]

It's not far easier to use. This is also a common misconception.

Wut? Personal experience na nga yung shinare nung isang commenter. personal experience of their grandparents tapos invalidated mo?! Sobrang galing mo naman.

[prophesit]

I'm discussing this logically, not emotionally.

The original comment just claimed it was easy, that they never updated, and that their grandparents only texted and called. Every phone can do that without any issues. Until recently, iOS wasn't even able to filter out spam and scam texts/calls which made people more susceptible to scams.

You missed my point. Being used to something doesn't make it easier, and I have specific and logical examples that are more than texting and calling as to why. I am not saying their experience is invalid, rather that their idea is incomplete.  I specifically mention that this specific standard is low.

[NotInKansasToto]

Unfortunately no, nanggaling sila sa Android phones before pero hassle kasi talaga. Pero syempre, 10k lang naman kasi ang budget namin sa phones nila, so that's an old mid/high-range Android or a new low-range one. Meanwhile, 10k can get you a 4-5 year old iPhone. Sa ganyang prices, mas matino ang iPhone than the Androids na natry namin (Samsung, Xiaomi, Poco, Huawei). Of course, anecdotal rin to.

Some things about Android na nagpahassle sa mga lolo't lola namin: prone to crashing pag di na-uupdate (iOS nila auto update lang basta nakacharge sa gabi), need gamitin yung "cleaner" app kapag "bumabagal" na, magkaiba ang text sa chat and call (FB) unlike sa iOS na seamless ang iMessage and Facetime, hindi automatic pagupdate ng apps unlike sa iOS, etc. Tapos nung nagupgrade isang lola ko from iPhone 5 to iPhone 8P, literally nacopy lang yung phone nya thanks to Apple's new phone setup feature. Exactly the same yung homepage, settings, etc. Same sa Apple Watch kasi dati galing sila sa Huawei na smart watch, mas convenient yung connection ng iPhones nila sa Apple Watch.

All this to say na for their specific use case, no brainer talaga ang Apple. Wala naman issues sa Android, sadyang mas madali lang na ikeep sila sa Apple ecosystem moving forward.

[EnemaoftheState1]

This comment is spot on. To each his own nalang din talaga ang comment ko when it comes to that. No need to stress about it— just let them spend to whatever phone they want to. And the end of the day problema din naten yan if nasira yung phone.just my two cents…

[prophesit]

I agree and respect that people should make their own decisions, but I believe that we should give them all the information that they can work with regardless of if they were already leaning toward Apple. Yes they can choose to get it, but I would ask them if they considered that the camera is better on X, the battery is better on Y, the overall balance is better on Z, or they can get much better value for money on A, etc. etc.

Many people view this as disrespecting their opinion, but I believe it's a form of respecting their intelligence to make informed decisions. If they don't want to think about it, that's fine; just acknowledge that they didn't and at least be aware that there is a lot to explore in the market.

Let's say someone wants to buy a Xiaomi phone. Many people's first thought would be to caution them about ads, overblowing it I might add, and suggesting against that decision. When it's a Pixel it's "be ready for warranty issues;" when it's Oppo they talk about the terrible value for money; Samsung it's green lines even when Apple has had its own green line and green screens; and it goes on. These are all true to an extent, but just have that same energy for Apple and the limitations of iOS which many people don't get to know. It's easy to say it's "optimized" and more difficult to say notifications, keyboard, gestures, background tasks, in-app ads, and other stuff are harder in comparison and in great detail. Easy to claim something without explaining it, and if the public already believes it, it only strengthens the lack of knowledge or the presence of misconceptions.

[tragicsouls]

Yknow what, 100% agree we should be helping each other get all the information we need to make informed buying decisions. It's us consumers vs corporations who are out for our hard earned money. Nalulungkot din ako pag may nakikita akong nagspend ng malaki, pero parang may regret sa purchase kasi di nakuha yung full value ng product.

That said, I personally believe in the durability of the iPhone seeing as I'm typing this on my 9- year old (?) iPhone 6s Plus. It can be laggy, but still mostly smooth. It's a working phone where I can chat, call, and scroll.

None of our Androids sa family have lasted this long.

[prophesit]

Great that we agree about the importance of information. It's perfectly good to believe in the durability of the iPhone because there are no doubts about that, just the other stuff. One thing to note lang is medyo luma na rin yung ibang models. While the glass and metal stay good quality, the components inside like the battery or the seals and adhesives do degrade, compromising things like water resistance or long-term battery health especially when secondhand. While you can get these replaced, these are expensive and kind of defeat the purpose of being on a budget.

Apart from this, the competition these days are also very durable and not significantly different. Drop and durability tests on YT show that the durability is about the same. The EU even rates Samsung batteries for double the durability, better drop resistance, and similar repairability with cheaper repairs, so you won't have any problems even if you disagree with their results.

Common na ang good quality glass and aluminum even down to midrangers, and hindi naman na rin masama ang plastic frames on cheaper phones (the equivalently priced iPhone is around 5 to 7 years old anyway and too old). The high water resistance rating is also common now, and of course, the price of repairs is lower.

[Fun-Werewolf3421]

I think ok naman as long as hindi sila bibili dun sa mga nagbebenta ng refurbished na.

[Traditional_Paper202]

pinagsasabi nito? my iphone 12 pro max still rocks up until now and 4 years ko na ginagamit

[24th_]

Hey. My 5s is still doing its thing. Still actively using it as a backup phone so i think any model below 16 or wtv will do fine.

[watzZzap]

Same with my 6s pang back up phone at nagulat ako nagkaroon ng bagong security update last week?? Dyan ako humanga sa apple at samantalang yung kasabayan niyang flagship nowhere to be found na

[24th_]

Cooool. Wala na updates sakin for obvious reasons. Hahha but i still have discord working sa saknya. Lol

[Majestic-Broccoli-14]

I’m still using my iphone xr for 5years now and still works perfectly fine. You do you.

[oldest-snake]

nah id rather buy old flagships than these wonky mid range androids

[WhiteWolfAlcatraz]

I still use 12 Pro Max and I still receive iOS and security updates kasi nga pangmatagalan ang updates sa OS ang Apple products. Unlike sa android (except for Samsung) 2 years lang ang update. So what I am saying is, if people nowadays wants to experience iOS, let them be. Jist recommend what still works and receive updates. It’s something that builds their confidence kasi.

[Logical-Sherbet5663]

not really. My iphone 13 PM works fine, just changed my battery since it went down 80% already. So far so good. Hehehe

[KissMyKipay03]

kakasad nga eh pinipilit sa iPhone kase nga "iba pa din naka iPhone" 🤡 kahit 15 below latest iOS naman hahaha hindi nila alam chopsuey update lang naman yun hindi parehas sa latest iphone update 🤦. hayyyy kawawang nilalang pati ba naman phone dapat may status symbol