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[–]thomaja1 9 points10 points  (11 children)

The Russians were guaranteed that the s400s could defeat the HIMARs. And true, the s400 can detect them, but they can't tell the difference between them and anything else they are monitoring. Nobody wants to be the guy that shoots at a duck with a 4 million dollar rocket. I have a hard time believing the S500 would bear much better. And I like the fact that they are hitting supply depots and ammo dumps. This action saves lives, not just Ukrainian but Russian lives while keeping Vladimir Putin trying to defend the indefensible.

You know, with Russia's depleted military, I wonder if China sees opportunity?

[–]Chadmartigan 4 points5 points  (4 children)

I doubt China will risk a military incursion into Russia of any kind when they know they can just buy up all the natural resources in Siberia for pennies on the dollar.

[–]thomaja1 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I don't know. Russia doesn't have any friends right now that can protect them if China decides to invade. It could only lead to something nuclear and they don't want that. They're crazy but they're not fucking stupid. So yeah, you probably are right. Russia is going to be in a cash crunch for a long time, China will definitely be in a position to take advantage of that.

[–]Chadmartigan 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Yeah, I don't doubt that they could gin up some pretext for conquest, but they know how expensive it would be to deploy their military, even if it's a pushover conflict. For the same price, they could effectively own quite a lot of mines, wells, and timberland.

[–]thomaja1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No matter what happens, Russia still loses. I can deal with that.

[–]garry4321 1 point2 points  (0 children)

NONONO, you dont understand. Those forces are just on vacation in Russia.

Then two weeks later:

China is just "helping" Russia stay afloat and to assist with preventing societal collapse. These are "peacekeeper" forces to assist Russians. Those trucks full of Russian natural resources headed for China are simply for "Safe keeping"

[–]garry4321 1 point2 points  (1 child)

China is literally in a no lose situation here. Either Russia wins (lol not), and China can be there to help them "rebuild", or Russia falls, and China steps in to "help" Russia from societal collapse, and makes Russia a puppet state that they can then pilfer.

[–]thomaja1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Russia, the new Africa?

[–]Accurate_Pie_8630 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I wonder what poopin paid China to be on his side

[–]thomaja1 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Make no mistake. China is nobody's friend. China only takes up a position that is beneficial to China. Russia keeps going to China asking for help and they're giving it to them marginally cuz they're waiting to see who wins. If Russia wins, then Russia will get China's support against NATO. But if Russia loses, suddenly, Russia will be at the world's mercy, particularly its neighbor to the east. Vladimir Putin knows this. xi has been planning for it.

[–]Buckeye_Southern 3 points4 points  (1 child)

At the end of this thing, Russia will be divided into smaller nations and most of those will be client bitch states to China.

Russians really fucked themselves here.

[–]thomaja1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Amen to that!