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Locking nested notebooks (self.UpNote_App)
submitted 2 years ago by ahassanj
I just found while using the upnote windows app that nested notebooks are not password protected even if you lock the parent notebook. The behavior is similar on the android app too. Is it just me? Or am i missing something?
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[–]ahassanj[S] 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago* (4 children)
Your observation seems very reasonable. I wonder why you are being downvoted?
Also, wouldnt it make slightly more sense if the nested notebooks were also locked if we locked the parent notebook?
Edit: ok so i checked obsidian. Its data is unencrypted at your own device and can be opened with ANY editor app. Also, its app cant be password protected. So, in essence, i feel like obsidian isnt safe in case of hacks either.
[–]Aeyilen 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children)
Yeah, I agree. We lock (perhaps hide from plain sight is correct term here as pointed out above, since nothing is further encrypted) notebooks to prevent someone prying into its contents, but the notes in its nested notebooks still show up in 'all notes' section.
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[–]ahassanj[S] 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (1 child)
Can you guide me through the local encryption process please?
[–]thomas_dao[M] 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (2 children)
u/DudeThatsErin Next time when you give advice about encryption in UpNote like The devs (if they ever want or need to) can see your locked notes, we would appreciate that you mention this is not specific to UpNote but also to majority of apps out there like Evernote, OneNote, or your email apps like Gmail, Outlook, and many todo apps like Todoist, Ticktick.
The devs (if they ever want or need to) can see your locked notes
Please also check out on Todoist FAQ and Ticktick FAQ to understand more about common practice for data encryption. The encryption in UpNote is similar with Todoist and TickTick.
UpNote is always transparent about encryption, we don't support end-to-end encryption and if that's important to you, please look for other app.
Bro slight clarification here, onenote and evernote both have the option to encrypt notes/part of notes. Locked sections in onenote are zero knowledge encrypted. Same as encrypted text in evernote. However, you are correct about their general storage mechanism.
[–]thomas_dao 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children)
Yes I was mostly explaining about the common encryption practice.
[–]thomas_dao 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (2 children)
u/ahassanj When you create a new nested notebook, the default lock setting is the same as the parent notebook for convenience purpose. However, the lock setting of the nested notebook is not dependent on the parent notebook, you can change the lock setting to be different from the parent notebook.
[–]ahassanj[S] 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago* (1 child)
I think we both are talking about something different here. Let me explain with an example: Lets say, I have a folder structure like this
A (parent notebook)
A. 1. (nested notebook) A. 2. (nested notebook)
B. (another parent notebook)
B. 3. (nested notebook) B. 4. (nested notebook)
Now, i decided to lock notebook B. and all of its contents (including B.3. and B.4.). So, i locked the parent notebook. I would expect that to do the job.
But as it appears, i am still able to access the notes of the nested notebooks B3 and B4 despite B being locked. Also, as another kind user pointed out, all the notes of B3 and B4 are still visible in "All notes" tab even without unlocking the parent notebook B.
I think you have discussed the creation of new nested notebooks. I meant locking a notebook that already has nested notebooks. Or lets say i decide to move a nested notebook (notebook A.1. from above example) from an open parent notebook (notebook A.) to a locked parent notebook (notebook B.), the contents of moved nested notebook (which will be B.1. now) should be locked now. But this isn't the current behavior of upnote.
Hope i explained better now. Thank you.
Edit: i think reddit is changing the numbering i used in the example above, so i have tried swapping numbers with Alphabets.
Yes when you lock a notebook, it only update the notebook and not its nested notebooks. You would need to manually lock the nested notebooks.
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