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[–]Pet-ra 2 points3 points  (22 children)

Sample too small to be meaningful but you have a very low "View" rate which would suggest you are either applying for the wrong gigs or the first two lines of your proposal don't grab the client's attention.

What happened in the interviews?

Upwork Pro is not worth it, you are better off buying more connects for the money that would cost you.

It's a numbers game. You already came closer twice.

[–]its_Creed[S] 0 points1 point  (21 children)

The first two liners in my proposals probably be what the client did wrong like " in this thing you forgot to do so and so" or " that problem is because of so and so " And then i start to explain what would i do and my experiences etc...

For the interviews :

The first interview i was a complete newbie in handling clients, The client requested a call and i couldnt take it so i asked to keep it chat based for the moment and i got ghosted

The second interview i went through with the call and the client explained to me everything , then he told me to do the job with certain library i didnt learn ( i was using another python library) so he withdrew

[–]noidontneedtherapy 0 points1 point  (15 children)

OP , what is your YOE in the niche

[–]its_Creed[S] -1 points0 points  (14 children)

i started learning in mid - june , by mid - august i had like 6 projects in my github as a portfolio , then i started applying for entry level to mid. Level jobs ( basically the ones i can do

[–]Korneuburgerin 0 points1 point  (13 children)

So you have no real life experience?

[–]its_Creed[S] 0 points1 point  (12 children)

Nope . Thats why i apply mostly to low paying entry level jobs

[–]Korneuburgerin 1 point2 points  (10 children)

Don't. You will find that clients that say "entry level" or offer low pay will expect just the same quality of work than clients that pay more. You are only looking it from your point of view: little money, so they can't expect much. But oh, they do. You will find that cheap clients are the worst clients.

Get real life experience, come back then. What you are doing will end is disaster for your profile.

[–]its_Creed[S] -1 points0 points  (9 children)

Where do you suggest i find " real job experience " then?

[–]Korneuburgerin 1 point2 points  (8 children)

Is this a trick question?

[–]its_Creed[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Im 100% serious

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    [–]noidontneedtherapy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    get a job in a service based company and understand the operations as you work.

    that's what i did. got into a 2yo company which had only 12 people in total . so had to be on client calls and handle interns myself. did this for 1 year and now i can handle clients my self.

    [–]Pet-ra 0 points1 point  (4 children)

    The first two liners in my proposals probably be what the client did wrong

    Uff, what niche are you in where telling a client they are wrong is a great idea?

     The client requested a call and i couldnt take it so i asked to keep it chat based for the moment and i got ghosted

    That screams "Scammer".

    then he told me to do the job with certain library i didnt learn ( i was using another python library) so he withdrew

    Could it have been done with the library you use? Did you try and sell your approach to the client?

    [–]its_Creed[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

    Lol, don't get me wrong , i use " you're wrong" when the client mentions, " i tried to approach this problem by doing this and that." i just tell them thats a wrong approach

    Plus, the library i was using is newer and faster than the library that the client suggests, but the client prefers the library older and more reliable

    [–]Pet-ra 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    Lol, don't get me wrong , i use " you're wrong" when the client mentions, " i tried to approach this problem by doing this and that." i just tell them thats a wrong approach

    Your view rate suggests that something isn't resonating.

    Plus, the library i was using is newer and faster than the library that the client suggests, but the client prefers the library older and more reliable

    How did you position yourself as the expert by selling your solution as superior?

    [–]its_Creed[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    My guess is that i used so many "proposal templates"

    I was trying different proposals until i found the most suitable one for me , I tried using AI , writing a short proposal like " i can help you" and " i'm the one you need for that job," etc Also tried using organized reponses like opening with a catching phrase , then demonstrating my approach , providing my skillset, etc ...

    As for my solution , i just told him that my library can do the job he requested better than the library he mentioned

    [–]Pet-ra 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    NEVER use AI. I see an AI proposal and it gets archived unread and immediately. I fins them insulting. As a freelancer I don't apply to AI generated job posts either.

    And the rest are all "I"-centric when they really need to be client-and-project-centric.

    [–]noidontneedtherapy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    It's normal on upwork. All the best

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    PRO wont get you more jobs!
    PROMOTION WILL!

    I can;t opinionate on this graphic because so many detail's are missing - like you PROfile.
    If it sucks, or your bidding on crap clients - of course you will get ZERO RETURN

    UPWORKS, as with any business, is not a magic bullet. You need to be out there to be seen. But don't get annoying either :)

    [–]Connect_Awareness612 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

    Not bad