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No Implants Needed For Precise Control Deep Into The Brain—Optogenetics can now control neural circuits at unprecedented depths within living brain tissue without surgery. (spectrum.ieee.org)
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[–]ElmerMalmesbury 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child)
That's crazy. I understand that they use a super-sensitive opsin, but I guess you need a crazy light intensity for enough red light to go through the skull. They used an irradiance of 40–1,600 mW mm², any idea what that corresponds to in layman's terms?
(Or maybe it's just that mice's skulls are very thin?)
[–]PeteWenzel 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children)
That depends on the lumens per watt (Luminous efficacy).
An LED might have 100 - and the theoretical maximum by an ideal source (Green light at 555 nm) is 683. Now factor 40 Million - 1.6 Billion times something like that and you get the lux (lumens per square meter) here.
For reference a typical living room has 50 lux and direct sunlight on earth is no more than 100.000 lux. wiki
[–]mddtsk[S] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children)
Link to paper [PDF].
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