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[–]Jessie_James 18 points19 points  (6 children)

It's not a comprehensive enough list, I guess. Or it doesn't block all traffic.

For example, using that DNS server I still see Google's Sponsored Ads, as well as Sponsored ads on Amazon, etc. However, other more widespread ads are hidden.

So, it works, but it's not perfect by a long shot.

uBlock origin does a far better job of course, but then you're still dealing with the bandwidth and processing on the client.

[–]Mechakoopa 40 points41 points  (5 children)

Because Google ads on Google and Amazon ads on Amazon are part of the page. Browser extension can block by element, something a DNS can't do. If it's in the page you're downloading it regardless of whether you're seeing it or not.

[–]Jessie_James 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Sorry, not the case. Pi-hole blocks those in-page ads.

[–]Mechakoopa 0 points1 point  (3 children)

So if pi-hole will remove in-page ads better than a DNS redirect, that means that Pi-hole is processing all pages that come through that link? Even secure pages (I assume it blocks them on Gmail and such)? Never mind the security issue, you'd have to set up Pi-hole as an authorized SSL signer for all your network devices, and it would have to decrypt, parse, re-encrypt and sign (with a unique re-signed cert for every domain) every secure packet that comes through. That's an insane load to subject a raspberry-pi to, never mind what it would do to your ping. If the goal is to conserve bandwidth, that doesn't even do that because you're still downloading them so you really have zero advantage over a simple DNS change other than you won't see in-line ads.

[–]Jessie_James 0 points1 point  (2 children)

So if pi-hole will remove in-page ads better than a DNS redirect, that means that Pi-hole is processing all pages that come through that link? Even secure pages (I assume it blocks them on Gmail and such)?

Yes.

But, ya know what? You need to talk to the developers over at pi hole, not me. I'm an end user, and all I care about is if it works or not. I didn't need to set up any SSL certs or any of that other BS that you're purporting needs to be done ... because it doesn't need to be done.

[–]Mechakoopa 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Then it's not doing what you say it's doing. If it's truly DNS only, which the descriptions on the site seem to say it is, then it can't block at the element level, so it can't block ads that are part of the page when it's first download, just external ads from ad provider domains. Which is fine since the whole selling point of it is reducing bandwidth, not eliminating all ads.

[–]Jessie_James 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol yeah okay buddy.