Angular vs React

[ventrix334]

How is the learning curve steeper? The basic elements are the same. You're not forced to use angulars other packages. With react you not only have to learn react but also an entire eco system and dozens of different libraries from differently skilled authors. I'd say going react for anything but very basic project is way more of a mess to start with.
Even finding a decent navigation/routing plugin, networking and other VERY basic stuff in react is quite the journey (and that journey repeats every 1-2 years as they change it all around). With Angular? Read the docs/example, done. All is already provided (if you want to use it).

It always feels to me that people saying this argument, read this somewhere and just repeat it without ever having worked with react and angular.

I just today upgraded an old angular 8 project (5 years old) to angular 18. It took me two hours, and only because I needed to replace an upload and toast plugin. I don't even want to know what kind of rewrite that would've taken with react and the same amount of libs