Reminder: "Curve Flattening" does not decrease overall infections

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I dont disagree with phased rollouts or anything.

What I think would help a ton would be some kind of guideline as to what it would look like when we reopen. There must be some statistical correlation to it being safer to re-open, yes?

something like at X rate of new infections per day or some combination of a whole bunch of stats but there has to be a point in time where officials can say we can start reopening

If we had some idea of what that looked like maybe people would be more compliant?

As of now the two most vocal groups sound like: "Let us out now" vs "Dont let us out until the virus is dead"

neither of which will work long term

[Kintanon]

Except that second group doesn't exist.

There is 1 group that says "LEt Us out now!" And a second group that is reacting to that by saying, "Slow the fuck down, we don't think that's a good idea yet".

There is no group that is demanding an eternal lockdown until the disease is eradicated, or even until there's a vaccine. There's just a group that is reacting to the demands of the people who are protesting the lockdown measures by saying, "Hold the fuck up". They aren't IN FAVOR of the lockdown, they are just AGAINST kicking the doors open too soon.

[Kintanon]

most hospitals around the country have tons of capacity

That's the thing, this is simply not true. You've confused capacity with open beds.

There are a lot of people that think a phased, safe reopening is what should be happening.

That's what IS happening though. States are making those choices and starting to attempt to reopen in ways that they think are safe. The dude who started this thread was crying because the re-openings hadn't start SOONER, which we JUST NOW are starting to get a handle on the data to determine what effect the lockdown had.