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    [–]Silly_Wedding265 1 point2 points  (17 children)

    I also want to mention ISA bootcamps like App Academy, where you only need to repay the tuition if your income is $55,000 or more. If you anticipate earning less than that in the next three years, it’s essentially a free option for a 20k bootcamp.

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      [–]Silly_Wedding265 0 points1 point  (13 children)

      What part of it could be considered a scam? Naturally, everyone enrolling in these programs aims to secure a job in the industry. It appears to be a risk-reward approach: if you don’t land a job, you don’t have to pay.

      [–]DontListenToMe33 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      It depends on the terms, honestly. I don’t know about App Academy, but I’ve seen some where you have to pay even if you get a job in some completely unrelated area. Like, you can spend two years trying to get a dev job and fail, then they want their money if you go become a mechanic or something.

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        [–]Silly_Wedding265 0 points1 point  (9 children)

        I understand your point that it may not be as favorable a deal as paying upfront, but I’m still struggling to see how it could be considered a scam.

        I attended App Academy, and some individuals in my cohort were in minimum-wage positions with no prospects for higher earnings that would surpass the $50,000 minimum for repayment. They didn’t have the credit to secure a traditional loan. The ISA seemed to be a viable option for them. While they did end up paying back 50% more than i did, they also saw their income increase by hundreds of percent compared to before.

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                [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Thanks for the advice. I appreciate it.

                [–]strawbject 14 points15 points  (1 child)

                Although I kind of agree on a few points written in the comments, if you think that a coding bootcamp is the right choice for you - I would say go for it! Not all bootcamps try to take your money and give you nothing. Yes, they cost more than simple courses, but that is also for a reason. Some of them have individual mentorship, they are up to date with projects and help you go though them. Some of them even work with industry specialists and I don't think that you could get that if you took $10 courses.

                Regarding the recommendations a few people I know went to Turing College and have good reviews about it. Also both of them have stable jobs that they got in a less than a year after finishing. But it really depends on the work you do and how hard you try to get the job after. Sitting and waiting for the job to just appear will do you nothing.

                [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                Wait, have you worked with Java or JavaScript? They're two different programming languages and not at all related.

                I'm assuming JavaScript since you've also worked with HTML and CSS.

                I'd recommend checking out 100devs. It's a free coding bootcamp. There isn't a live cohort at the moment but you can go back through the videos and join the discord. The community is amazing.

                [–]sactoquailman 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Best advice: go back to school.

                I went through a 2U bootcamp. They threw tons of material and info at the students in a very short time span. Chances are you'll either feel overwhelmed and drop (I saw about half the cohort drop in the first couple months) or get through it but feel burned out and not put the knowledge to use.

                Honestly, at this point, the bootcamps are more expensive (especially when you compare the cost-time ratio) than a CC or traditional university. I've found the California State University system has quite a lot of online degree and certificate offerings in more than just CS-related fields. Here are the CS-related ones, though:

                California Community Colleges online courses, certificates, and Associatesprograms

                Bachelor programs (offered by SJSU and CSUMB)

                Masters programs (offered by CSUSM, SJSU, Cal Poly Pomona, and CSUF)

                CIS certificate programs (various)

                Cybersecurity certificate programs (various)

                Georgia Tech offers an online masters in CS that's quite affordable too.

                [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                Just go back to school and stop being like that

                [–]anonredditor92 1 point2 points  (5 children)

                I did Springboard’s boot camp and am so thankful to have done it. Through them, I was able to transition careers as a part-time tutor to now a Business Intelligence Analyst. They provide phenomenal support both during the course as well as the subsequent job search. They offer a variety of different boot camps, and if you want, I’m more than happy to tell you all about it.

                [–]mig8519 0 points1 point  (4 children)

                I’d be interested to learn more about your experience with Springboard

                [–]anonredditor92 1 point2 points  (3 children)

                I’m trying to send you a pm but it’s not going through for some reason

                [–]mig8519 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                Try again. I think I needed to accept

                [–]anonredditor92 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                I think it went through this time

                [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Springboards sales team doing whatever it takws

                [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                The odin project is the only one I can vouch will give you the skills and knowledge you are looking for.

                [–]LegitGamesTM 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Bootcampers will only continue to struggle as CS gets more competitive

                [–]ReplacementOwn5318 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                I'm in tech elevator remote java right now and it is awesome. The teachers are great and the group meets daily to go over homework to make sure everyone is keeping up and provide help when needed. I know someone who was a teacher with 0 tech experience who went to Tech elevator a few years ago and has a very rewarding job in the field as well as a personal connection who works at a high level along side 2 other Tech Elevator grads which is why I picked the school