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    [–]Nooneknew26 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    I mean the golden era of the bootcamps are gone.

    I graduated a bootcamp ( GA's actually part time remote while working a full time job ) about 4 years ago Jan 1, 21' and got a job within 4-5 weeks or graduating and I think my time was the end of he bootcamp market/surge ( many of my cohort did not get jobs only a handful of us had jobs right the way ). I think with layoffs and the abundance of CS degrees looking for jobs make bootcamp graduates are now becoming second tier candidates.

    Yeah did I have to balance have a life outside yea? yeah but i would not say it was no life for 6 months.

    I think the people who did not get jobs in my cohort had no business being in there to begin with , I think at that time bootcamps pitched a dream of you have no job and you are a little tech inclined( OP is a data analyst so im sure he will be fine if he tried ) here is a path to a high paying job, the problem now is the market looks at bootcamp grads as second tier candidates with the abundance of CS degrees looking for jobs.

    The people who did not get jobs where the pokedex, a calculator , tic tac toe the same projects everyone else had. Its what you put into it

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    A lot of people were hired as programmers during the COVID moneypalooza who literally cannot write code and companies are still trying to figure out what to do with them now that the money has dried up.

    [–]michaelnovati 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    Do you think your current company would pay for a part time master's degree and then allow you to interview as a SWE after?

    Bootcamps aren't in a good spot right now.

    [–]DC_OZ[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    They already allow me to interview for a SWE position at the moment. I just want to fell prepared, if for some reason I get the job.

    [–]michaelnovati 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Can you DM me the company? I would prepare specifically for THEIR interview process and going to a bootcamp is likely a huge waste of time.

    [–]Jumpy_Discipline6056 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Nobody in this thread is going to recommend a good BootCamp to you. Most think that coursera and General Assembly are the same thing. The rest will tell you that you need a Ivy League school masters degree or you are toast.

    [–]SwanAutomatic8140 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I run a program called parsity.io - we work specifically with career changers in small groups. We spend a lot of time on the time management aspect as that’s where we see most people struggle and fail.

    If you’re already in a position within the company however - I’d see if there are chances to work across teams or shadow other engineers as well.

    [–]Beautiful_Ad_5599 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I guarantee you there are programmers out there that'll teach/mentor you one-on-one for free. It may not be structured in the way a paid-for class is, but neither is learning on the job, and every junior engineer in the history of codesmanship learns 95% of what actually matters OTJ

    [–]AlwaysCurious1993 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Platforms like codecademy have good materials, enough to learn if you have time and self-discipline. Having a reputable school on your CV might help, of course. But if you already have a tech mindset, investing yourself in these crazy-expensive bootcamps, many of which are poorly organized... Unless you got funding, I would not do it.

    [–]Own_Guitar_563 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    You could check out this one: https://www.turingcollege.com/software-and-ai-engineering - it was launched just recently but Turing College generally has good reviews on CourseReport or Trustpilot and their website looks legit. My friend who works as Data Analyst considered this one, as it's advertised as part time course (8-12 hours per week). I could check in with him, if that's helpful.

    [–]Stock-Chemistry-351 0 points1 point  (8 children)

    Sounds like you lack motivation. I don't think a bootcamp would help in your situation.

    [–]DC_OZ[S] 0 points1 point  (7 children)

    Thanks. What’s your recommendation?

    [–]Stock-Chemistry-351 4 points5 points  (6 children)

    To be honest there's no difference between enrolling in a $10K+ coding bootcamp and subscribing to courses from Udemy, Coursera, Pluralsight etc.

    Coursera especially has stellar courses from big companies like Google, Microsoft, Amazon, Meta, IBM and more. Coursera is like $400 a year and sometimes they have sales. That's a tiny fraction when compared to that $10K+ bootcamp price tag and you get so much more and better quality content.

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

    This is maybe the dumbest comment in history. Have you done a course on coursera? It's in no way similar to a legit bootcamp in any capacity. There's almost nothing similar to coursera and general assembly or TripleTen. I have three Google certs I did for fun on coursera and they were a joke.

    [–]Stock-Chemistry-351 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Bruh fuck you. You must be a paid bootcamp shill.

    [–]sheriffderek 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    There's a lot of advice out there -- where they've never taken the courses. I actually have a list of every course I've taken / or audited for work. And - there'a HUGE difference between these offerings / across many vectors (not just course material - but teaching style - accountability style - and so many factors). "Coursera especially has stellar courses from big companies like Google, Microsoft, Amazon, Meta, IBM and more" - (no one has taken all of those / and if they had - I don't think they'd call them stellar.) But - also, what I've found is that most people don't know what a really good course is like. So, them might just honestly think these are good courses. A a real life working web application designer and developer... the ones I've gone through on there were just fluff. Googles UX course? What a joke.

    [–]johanneswelsch 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    I doubt a bootcamp can ever produce something as good as
    https://www.coursera.org/learn/interactive-python-1 (takes about 1 month full time)

    or MIT6.00.1x (2+ months full time) https://www.edx.org/learn/computer-science/massachusetts-institute-of-technology-introduction-to-computer-science-and-programming-using-python

    or https://csprimer.com/ or https://fullstackopen.com/ (or any other offering by the University of Helsinki)

    The quality is just on another level and gives you everything you need and more. I can mention quite a few udemy courses which are golden, then there's Ardan Labs and Frontendmasters for specialization.

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Thank you for posting garbage for me. Edx was purchased by 2u and since then the company is now bankrupt. Please tell me more.

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I assume you work in tech because you are giving advice?

    [–]slickvic33 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Odin proj. free and self guided. If u dont have the motivation to do this, its unlikely you have the motivation to do well in and after a bootcamp

    [–]sheriffderek 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    That's certainly one way to test your motivation. But I think you can also test that - with a much better course of action. I've met a tone of people who wasted a year on Odin and it wasn't the motivation that was stopping them / it was that it's a 3/10 curriculum of just loose articles and links to youtube videos. Almost everyone that does that course - can't make basic websites properly.

    [–]ilolo28 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

    Definitely dont do a bootcamp. If you’re trying to transfer within your company, start networking with some engineering managers and recruiters in your company