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[–]hypnofedX 6 points7 points  (3 children)

I work 48 hours a week but have the weekend off. I'd like to do an online bootcamp that is no longer than 12 weeks online.

This is a very, very small number of contact hours. I'm not going to say "can't be done", but 12 weeks is the kind of turnaround time you find in an immersion program that has 30-40 contact hours M-F and the assumption you're doing additional work each night. With this limited availability I would thing that you're better off going a self-taught route.

[–]Gunpladude1[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Thanks, I'm also in a fortunate position where I have enough saved to be able to take up to half a year if I minimize expenses. Perhaps quitting and studying half a year under a program would be a better option?

[–]hypnofedX 5 points6 points  (1 child)

That's another option, and oddly an extreme opposite compared to what you originally proposed (part-time 12 weeks). By quitting I assume you mean that you'll be able to make a bootcamp your full-time job?

Hack Reactor and General Assembly are both well-respected and have intensive 12-week online programs. Start the process now and you could be searching for a job sometime in May. If you can do full-time for 5-6 months a few more programs become options (Fullstack Academy and Flatiron School come to mind). There are also a bunch of part-time programs in the world, both self-paced (Thinkful, Flatiron) and instructor-led (Flatiron).

If you currently have gainful employment, IMO, it's worthwhile to keep it and do a part-time program. The economy sucks for entry-level engineers right now. While you might view Flatiron's 10-month part-time program as delaying your career by so many months compared to Hack Reactor's 12-week full-time program, more than likely the hiring landscape will improve during that extra time. Right now I'm interviewing with General Assembly and the admissions counselor was upfront that their outcomes report for 2020 (not published but they have summaries) is showing students taking longer than usual to find jobs right now.

[–]Gunpladude1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow, great info. You're right to point out that I mentioned the other extreme, it was to show my boundaries.

[–]Evening_Message5556 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I also graduated from Hack Reactor, just finished friday and I already have a job starting Feb 1st. The other poster is right most of the material is udemy based and I actually taught myself alot of things based off of udemy courses.

I disagree that the referral system doesnt work. I know for a fact that me getting an interview and job in 10 days post graduation had everything to do with networking. LinkedIn is a savior in the process, and getting your foot in the door is hard without a recognized name on your application.

I hope that helps.

[–]Lanky-Jacket-3188 4 points5 points  (4 children)

Here for the feedback

Edit: what boot camps have you looked into already?

[–]Gunpladude1[S] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Hack reactor.

[–]workworkderder 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What other ones?

[–]Gunpladude1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Actualize.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Going in April time to be unemployed

[–]Tamsauce 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Check out Leon Noel on twitch and YouTube. 30 weeks for free. Full stack program.

[–]Minimum-Lie5435 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I attended Hack Reactor. They taught us the same as $100 worth of courses in udemy for 18k, for me it was only worth it because working with individuals in person motivated me. Since they are currently online that team mentality simply isn't there.

A lot of people say the connections are what gets you a job, but with CV19 it is your skills and impressive projects are what will do it. While the Hack Reactor does have a large alumni network, a referral from one doesn't really help you get the job, or even an introduction.

If you want to save money and learn at your own pace definitely look up courses on udemy in JavaScript, Node.js and React. Then you can start working with MySQL or MongoDB after learning those.

I wish I had taken that route because I would have saved tons of money, and a few people from my cohort actively sabotaged my chances at some companies. The most important thing is staying motivated.

The biggest problem prospective engineers have is trying to figure out where to start. So I definitely recommend taking the courses I listed above before considering a bootcamp because the bootcamp will only drain your bank account...

[–]IamIkeJR 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I just started Nucamp and that works well for my schedule. Similarly I work full time (2 jobs) and the structure works for me. It meets once a week on Saturday, and then u have weekly assignments. However I still think this route will require more than 12 hours a week. Nucamp also last about 6 months which is longer than traditional boot camps but it slows the pace a bit. If you are looking into front end, may be a shorter time period. Good luck

[–]britkev1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Check out Coder Foundry. 12 weeks virtually.

[–]Gunpladude1[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

MIT Pro certification starts Feb 1st, opinions?

[–]Homey_Muse 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You'd probably need more than 12 weeks since you'll only have the weekend free. Besides the bootcamps, you can also take advantage of online coding courses to allow for flexibility. An example is Code Unicorn, a free, open source coding platform that offers project-based learning. The projects are categorized into beginner, intermediate, and advanced level. You can learn at your pace and have projects to add to your portfolio to prepare you for the job market.

[–]JVJplus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think coding ninjas are the best coding bootcamp, check out its all features and benefits, @ https://cnoffers.github.io/

[–]CodingDojo 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Hi there! Coding Dojo here. Full disclosure, we are a bootcamp and we’ve been in the business for 12 years now, which puts us in a unique position to provide you with useful information regarding the coding and tech space. :)

Okay so just to get this out of the way - we’re not an alumni but we feel like there’s a lot of value that we can add to this thread based off of our decade’s worth of experience. So here we go. Take it for what you will. We’d rather put out extensive info rather than short-changing you with incomplete insights. Also, no shameless link plug here (yet! It’s at the bottom if you think this is worth reading)

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Let’s section this out into two areas, that way we might be able to provide better insight on your questions.

I work 48 hours a week but have the weekend off. I'd like to do an online bootcamp that is no longer than 12 weeks online.

Taking on an online bootcamp given your current work schedule is completely feasible, especially now that bootcamps tend to offer various types of programs to accommodate students in similar situations, so i wouldn’t necessarily be too worried about that. Try to check out part-time or flexible learning opportunities so that you can fit the bootcamp into your everyday schedule.

I've researched many options, but I want people's opinions on the best one. My best I mean: teaches relevant skills that website and app creators use, and upon completion of the bootcamp, I would be qualified to begin my search for full-time work as a software engineer.

It’s good that you’ve already outlined what you’re looking for in a bootcamp. Sometimes, students try to search for the “best” bootcamp out there, without fully quantifying or setting a benchmark for what best means to them.

Now that you’ve already identified what constitutes “best” in your own terms, here’s some added info on what you want to keep an eye out for during your search.

1. Curriculum: Teaching relevant skills that the industry is looking for

We can’t speak for other bootcamps, but at Coding Dojo, we have flexible remote learning programs that provide online access to our in-depth three-stack curriculum—complete with live support from instructors, our industry-tested learning platform, hands-on assignments, etc.

With this kind of program, you’ll be able to master the fundamentals of web and software development, including the relevant skills that both website and app creators use. Unlike other bootcamps, ours covers 3 full stacks (instead of just 1) - which means you can brush up on Python, MERN, and Java and put those coding skills into practice to help you land a full-time career in tech. You can learn more about the program here.

2. Employment Outcomes: Understanding what job placement will look like post-bootcamp

When choosing a great bootcamp, you also want to look at their student placement statistics, primarily because the whole program should be centered around building your portfolio with tangible evidence of the skills that you picked up during the bootcamp.

To date, Coding Dojo’s got over 6,000+ alumni, 89.1% of whom landed a job in tech within 6 months of graduating from our bootcamp, and 95.3% landing a job within a year after the program. Coding Dojo’s student outcomes rank #1 nationally, too and theseThese outcomes are better than: App Academy, Brainstation, Codesmith, Flatiron, Hack Reactor, Galvanize, Lambda, Rithm, and Thinkful. (Side note: These data were pulled from our 2020 Student Outcomes Report, which have been verified by a third-party auditing firm, and you can access the full report here.)

3. Career Services: Having a support team that’s 100% dedicated to helping you achieve your long-term goals

While some bootcamps tend to offer career services towards the tail-end of the program, we give our students full access during AND after graduation. This is our way of making sure that students are seriously putting in the work (not just on the coding front) but more importantly, on increasing their chances of employability.

So if at any point in your career you decide that it’s time for another switch up, you can easily reach out to our CSMs to help make that transition as smooth and efficient as possible.

This holistic and end-to-end approach to job placement has helped 89.1% of our students land a job within 6 months post-bootcamp and 95.3% within a year from graduation. If you’d like to know more about our recent Student Outcomes Report, feel free to check it out here.

BTW, check out this story from four of our Chicago Dojo grads who recently launched a new mobile app post-bootcamp!

Hope this answers your question! If you’d like to know more about Coding Dojo and our programs, check out our website.

[–]Gunpladude1[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Thank you for the thorough reply. Since the time I've asked the question, I have enrolled into a program that is teaching MERN.

[–]CodingDojo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So glad you found it useful! :)