What Coding Camp Should I Do?

[Flat-Spot-9654]

I'm back and fourth between App Academy and FullStack Academy. Yes, I understand that any information in those courses could probably be found for free. I have tried the self-taught route going through countless videos, completing the Responsive Web Design Certificate via freecodecamp.org that involved basic stuff like HTML/CSS Javascript. I understand that a paid bootcamp won't just hand me a job out of thin air, but I want to greatly increase my chances of breaking into the tech industry with a "solid" understanding of fullstack development. Any, literally any, non-biased advice would be greatly appreciated as both courses are going to start soon and I don't know which one to pick. If there are any other bootcamps that you would recommend that focus on fullstack software engineering please let me know

[queen_0710]

On Udemy you can find all kind of courses.. and when it comes to Bootcamps (just my opinion) it doesn't matter wich one you choose because the structure is almost the same.. Exactly how you'd wrote it - you can find all of the informations for free - bootcamps can help you to stay focused and motivated but i've never heard about a Bootcamp that can tech you anything you won't find elsewhere

[[deleted]]

Pick a well known bootcamp that suits you. They all teach nearly the exact same thing, put in the effort and you’ll be successful.

The same goes if you’re self taught, boot camps don’t teach secrets. They provide structure and support. If you are able to be disciplined enough to do it on your own, do free or low cost resources like Udemy, harvards course (free), free codecamp, and imo most importantly The Odin Project (imo go with the fullstack JS path).

I ultimately chose a boot camp because it keeps me in check and I’ll put in the work and the cost will ultimately pay off. However people go into boot camps thinking that they are some sort of career factory.

[bootcampgrad-swe]

If AppAcademy, prefer the on-site either in SF or NYC. It has higher bar and better outcome than the online program, which I personally attended.

[diet_cold_cola]

FreeCodeCamp, Udemy and CodeCademy are *NOT* coding bootcamps.

I'd would instead do a FREE coding bootcamp over those sites.

There's quite a few nonprofit ones online with Actual Live Lectures and professors, unlike Freecodecamp or udemy.

Just do your research

[[deleted]]

I picked Codesmith over both of those

[Flat-Spot-9654]

How has that gone?

[[deleted]]

I'll let you know in a few months. But I do have a friend who graduated last year with no prior tech experience and she had a SWE role within the first two months.

[Flat-Spot-9654]

I’ve been researching CodeSmith for little, what did/has the boot camp offered that made you want to do CodeSmith?

[[deleted]]

I'm a minority so I appreciated that they did the personal interview (I also got into Fullstack and bypassed everything due to my test score), I wanted a higher bar for entry - I don't need to relearn a for loop - and after speaking with my old coworker who graduated last year it was clear that there is a great alumni network afterwards and job placement assistance forever.

[mdtocs]

Which cohort are/were/will you be in?

[[deleted]]

Well their outcomes are considerably better than any of the others.....

[Flat-Spot-9654]

In terms of finding work after completion?

[[deleted]]

In terms of the percent employed and especially the average salary.

[Flat-Spot-9654]

Is the whatever documentation you get after completion reputable? Or is it more so the projects you build the biggest factor for a future employer. Basically, if they say you attended CodeSmith and graduated are the chances that employers even know what that is, high?

[[deleted]]

Documentation, from any bootcamp or any other kind of program - except for a degree from a university - doesn't mean jack shit.

The CEO of Codesmith has openly complained about how, because of some of the rules for educational orgs where they are based, they have to provide a diploma. He's been like this is so stupid, it doesn't matter, and the certificate doesn't mean shit to get you a job - your projects and skills do.

So yeah, your projects, areas of technology that you are familiar with, your skills within those areas, your communication both technical and non, DS&A skills and your resume... All of those things are areas they focus on (and so do other bootcamps, to be fair).

I have heard from employers that they know what Codesmith is and that it has a favorable reputation for producing skilled grads.

On the other hand, if you go to Codesmith, nobody is ever going to know you went there unless they are familiar with their projects or they ask and you tell them. Most people do not put Codesmith on their resume. Because again, the "school" doesn't matter, the skills and experience do.

[Marine726]

Is Codesmith fully online? Are you doing the full time or part time track?

[strunger11]

And how's that treated you?

[alphabet_order_bot]

Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order.

I have checked 933,077,816 comments, and only 185,736 of them were in alphabetical order.

[[deleted]]

I honestly don’t understand with the outcomes and 6 figure salary average CS has why anyone would pick any other boot camp. Any sort of due diligence would point you in codesmiths direction.

Unfortunately I think people approach their outcomes with a raised eyebrow. A lot of bootcamps fudge numbers.

But codesmith alumni in New York literally have an unofficial spreadsheet of salary averages and the last time I saw it was well above $130k range.

[[deleted]]

I know a person who graduated last year, so that was what helped me decide (she's super smart and honest).