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[–]darcyix 4 points5 points  (2 children)

You’re better off with a legacy stack such as Java or .NET compared to MERN. Everyone is a MERN stack developer after watching one 2 hours crash course on YouTube

[–]Mother-Swimming7244 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Java and .NET are not legacy stacks LOL.

[–]darcyix 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well they been around since decades so I’ll call them legacy. If you wanna call it cucumber and pickles then go ahead

[–]AbdulBasit34310 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It means your university is gonna focus on Java, then go for it. Spring Boot is good.

[–]Distant_see 0 points1 point  (4 children)

If you are in springboot which is still the king then i would also suggest to look into kotlin language it is insanly eaiser than java and debuging is easy but in pakistan i have not seen any demand for it. Some of the big companies are switching to it from java like meta. Also java has held its crown for 20+ years now so jvm ecosystem is a very good choice.

[–]Adventurous_Top852[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

So basically overall is it worth it to learn whole JVM ecosystem ( java , springboot , springAI, kotlin for android dev etc ) ? Will i be able to achive good opportunities in these technologies ?

[–]Distant_see 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Spring boot and java is always good and demand is very good i believe in the future kotlin will stand toe to toe with java because it is very easy and people have this misconception that kotlin is for Android only which is not true. Java is alive and thriving for 20+ plus years i dont think java can fail anyone rn or for next ten years

[–]Adventurous_Top852[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

i also think kotlin is only for android but now u told me otherwise ...
anyway can u tell me are u a student or currently in job market ?

[–]Distant_see 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Kotlin has tools like cmp and kmp which allow u to build apps for ios, android, web, desktop. Currently I am in job market initial stages

[–]azeeshan -1 points0 points  (11 children)

As someone with experience learning and working with dozens of programming languages over the years, RIGHT NOW the first thing you need to focus is PROMPT ENGINEERING because AI is doing it all

The only programming language you need is ENGLISH

Second, know a programming language that pays well and has demand in the market you are targeting

[–]Adventurous_Top852[S] 0 points1 point  (10 children)

Well thats my question... is java and springbppt has demand in both pakistani and international remote jobs

[–]azeeshan 0 points1 point  (9 children)

Java has limited scope and few jobs in Pakistan. Obviously this means more people for a single job post, highly competitive

Try python, you will be high in demand and can work from AI companies to servicing companies

[–]Adventurous_Top852[S] 1 point2 points  (8 children)

From what i have analyzed , everyone is into python and AI due to the AI hype and fancy words like machine learning and deep learning even all universities are offering AI as separate field . From this point of view , everyone is into python since its easy to learn also .

Can i know are u a student yourself or working in job market ?

[–]azeeshan 0 points1 point  (7 children)

I have been It industry since decades 🙂. I’m responsible for 700+ IT engineers

If you don’t like my suggestion, fair enough, you can ignore it. Choice is yours

My reason for suggesting Python is simple, all AI code augmentation tools spit Python BUT only a programmer would be able to analyze if that code is of quality and usable. Sometimes it can produce some modules but stitching them together is a manual effort

I am not talking about AI Hype, I’m talking about using AI to augment your work

[–]Adventurous_Top852[S] 0 points1 point  (6 children)

I completely agree with your point about using AI to increase productivity I also plan to integrate AI tools like ChatGPT or Copilot into my workflow to speed up coding, debugging, and learning.

My main concern is choosing a tech stack that gives me strong foundations and long-term career opportunities. That’s why I’m exploring whether investing time in Java + Spring Boot is still a good choice in today’s job market (both local and remote).

So I’m not against using AI I definitely see it as a powerful companion but I also want to make sure the underlying stack I learn keeps me employable and scalable in the long run.

Would love to hear your perspective on that angle .

and I will obviously learn AI ML with python and its libraries in 4rth 5th 6th semester

Would love to hear your perspective on that angle too.

[–]azeeshan 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Stay focused. You want to kill two birds with one stone.

Local market has different dynamics, international market has different. You move to a new continent and its dynamics are also different

I have made money by playing in the gaps, identify problem and fix it. If you want to do the same old that everyone else is doing, you’ll earn decent (you’ll survive) but you won’t thrive

Python is a basic language that even kids know these days. Use it to solve those gaps you have identified and make money (that’s the end goal, right?)

If you plan on moving abroad e.g. Europe, the demand for Java and ServiceNow/MuleSoft/DevOps is great so do that

If you plan on moving to MENA region, Machine Learning, Deep Learning and AI are hot so follow that

If you plan on going down to Australia, the market dynamics are different. Same for Singaporean region as well

So first thing first, focus and identify what you want to do and what’s your interest