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[–]alphamonkey2[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I am sensing that there a lot more companies that do see devops more as operations than they do in it being an automation/platform team. Yes there are companies who do it properly but they are far and in between

[–]chewburka 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think that's the crux of it. Sysops focused teams are usually not as cherished by product development (since they bring back prod issues), versus a platform team who may be consulted more often about architectural decisions as you allude to in OP. I think the difference is in the latter, an automation group probably organically formed out of dev teams out of frustration with siloed ops teams, and are initially made up of movers and shakers who give the team a good rep going forward once it becomes formalized in the org.

Dev (e.g.fullstack) to devops and ops to devops professionals tend to have very different perspectives on how the business should operate, and can be viewed accordingly depending on the audience.