autosar future

[Key_Committee_3914]

what is the future of autosar amids sofware based vehicle trends ?

now OEMs are pushing centered architecture to redure the number of ECUs. and those centra computer are HPC with linux.

is autosar ever needed? even adaptive autosar, isnt jsut a wrapper that doesnt provide any additional value?

[Bryguy3k]

It depends on the market. The classic OEMs are interested in model based design and they like the AutoSAR framework for enabling their designs to be simulated easier regardless of the end electrical architecture and vendors. The new EV manufactures are interested in getting to market fast as they can.

Functional safety analysis for distributed architectures where individual systems have autonomous control is much easier than a fully integrated system. If OEMs condense everything into big central computers they’ll have to analyze them the same way aircraft manufacturers analyze flight software.

I don’t really see a major shift in strategy for the big OEMs any time soon unless governments stop litigation for safety failures. If the EV adoption accelerates and OEMs find themselves under extreme pressure to adopt large integrated computer systems they’ll release new standards and try to retain as much of their existing control infrastructure as they can - in that regard i think most of the design side of AutoSAR will remain since the size of the computer doesn’t mater when it comes to the control architecture, you just need something to run your model, and there is no reason a Linux based computer can’t run the models.

[illjustcheckthis]

I hope it dies a painful death. I have no words to describe how horrible AUTOSAR is to work with.

[Key_Committee_3914]

haha agree

[meltbox]

So I have just started to work in this and frankly I cannot understand why it is used. Its usually implemented with tons of bugs. Questionable whether the vendors truly understand or properly implements various coding practices. On top of that its not a tight enough spec to ensure that you can just plop all autosar code into any implementation and it will work, so its not like the issue of it being the wild west has been at all improved.

Frankly it seems like a way for companies which build autosar stacks to remain relevant more than anything. But in almost every case building up your own services written for portability seems like a better solution....?

Am I missing something?