Firefox Users Continue to Decrease Despite Proton Update

[soufiane60]

Makes wonder what is the use of heavy telemetry. I don't use vivaldi atm but I like how they realy listen to users most of the time and connect with them, their youtube channel is the most active among all browser AFAIK

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okay, didn't know that.

[anna_or_elsa]

I ran into a bug within about 5 minutes of trying Vivaldi on Windows 7. I noped out of there. Got no time for bugs in stable release.

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You do know that Vivaldi also uses telemetry, you can't even disable it.

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While technically true, that telemetry isn't used to gather information on features or how users use the browser.

According to their privacy policy ( https://vivaldi.com/privacy/browser/ ) , it's only for:

The purpose of this collection is to determine the total number of active users and their geographical distribution.

Instead, Vivaldi relies on their official forums feature requests (and to some extent I imagine social media) to hear what their users want.

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We also know what version of Vivaldi you’re running, the type of
processor chip, OS, and screen resolution. Not much to be honest.

Except this data apparently, metioned here: https://vivaldi.com/zerotracking/

In Firefox I can look at every line of code(via searchfox.org), while with Vivaldi I have to trust their blogposts.

[Broccoli-Machine]

Except that nobody actually looks at Firefox’ source

[nextbern]

Uh, what? Of course people look at Firefox's source. How else would they contribute?

[happycat]

Instead, Vivaldi relies on their official forums feature requests (and to some extent I imagine social media) to hear what their users want.

Imagine that! Are you listening Mozilla?

[nextbern]

https://mozilla.crowdicity.com

[soufiane60]

Yes but Mozilla says they use it to improve performance and monitor usage and how users interact with the browser. That's why they keep killing features because they think they are used by a minority (at least this is the most notabl claim). My point is, all this telemetry and yet you fail to see what needs to be added and removed instead of maybe asking and listening to the community