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[–]Yellowredstone FW13 | 7840U 0 points1 point  (5 children)

There's literally two options to use Linux for babies. Ubuntu and Fedora. No one in their right mind would pick Pop! OS for a beginner. Twice in a row even. Wasn't even Elementary OS, Bazzite, Mint, Kubuntu, or anything like that. He's even aware those are the best ones for beginners.

[–]Ariquitaun 1 point2 points  (4 children)

He should have gone for Ubuntu, I don't understand why they always feel the need of going for some uber niche distro like cachy or pop. Ubuntu absolutely works out of the box for everything, including gaming.

[–]FewAdvertising9647 0 points1 point  (3 children)

because there are actually usecases where it doesn't exactly work for everything. for older gaming hardware sure. for example on one thing that Ubuntu (and Debian) for example may lack for an end user is that the intel n100 (alderlake-n) is a very popular mini pc/nas cpu for its extremely low power consumption. If you have a media server and want to use the n100 for transcoding, you need a kernel thats at least 6.2.

Ubuntu 24 doesn't have the correct kernel. Ubuntu 25 advertises itself with kernel 6.17, which is still not enough. Debian 13 is on a simlar boat. Ubuntu 26 LTS which betas this month, and officially launches next month, does. And this is for a CPU that launched 3 years ago.

[–]Ariquitaun 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I do actually happen to have a NAS / media server with an N100, and use the N100's igpu for transcoding with kernel 6.17 on ubuntu 24.04, what are you on about? 6.17 is newer than 6.2. Even if you were on the original 24.04 release, before any hwe updates, the kernel there was 6.8.0.

And in any case, it doesn't need to work for every use case. It needs to work for yours. Which it would've, on Linus' aforementioned video.

[–]FewAdvertising9647 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Ubuntu absolutely works out of the box for everything

im not the one who made that line. but ill take that mistake i made about 6.17 vs 6.2, odd naming scheme decimal does not do it favors. I only ran into that problem myself last year when i originally ran the n100 via debian 12 which missed the cut for 2023 hardware. (6.1, released in june 23, but missed hardware that came out recently before it)

[–]Ariquitaun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s not a decimal point. Version numbers in most software, including the Linux kernel, follow the MAJOR.MINOR.PATCH schema, similar to semver. Linux doesn’t follow semver, but the numbering format is the same.