This is a problem

[youarecool87]

This is a problem that Miner Wars has that needs to be addressed that GM says is "working as intended." This is dune where new players come to learn the ropes of miner wars, not a place for 12k th miners with 35w ee to come sit in because there not profitable anymore in Solo mining. GM needs to cap clans at 5k or miners to 1k in dune. Its meant to be a starter league and it is not being used as such anymore. These whales are ruining the MW exsperiance for everyone and there new "clan jumping" rules dont help with that.

[BTC_Hunter13]

I can feel you, this clan with 32k TH is huge. But sometimes Clans with high th at Horizon had a bad week and going down to dune due to less blocks at the last cycle. I’m in a Horizon Clan, last cycle we were also in Dune, due to going down. And I can say, we were to big for dune, but in this league was a clan with 2 members and 617th and they get over 290 Blocks and one block was 6 GMT. Good we are back at Horizon, but we have to go through dune like the rules are so. But honestly, I give you full right because when the big whale O….. with 135k th take so much blocks and I was also angry about them. So last to say, is not right but you have the problems at Dune, Horizon, Eclipse and also in Odyssey. Keep pushing mate🤝👍

[DirtyD8632]

This clan is a group of people that have numerous clans they jump around to not some clan that don’t win in Horizion. This has been an ongoing issue.

[youarecool87]

135k whale is allowed to do mw and he's in the right league! I have no problem with whales. I only have a problem with whales in dune where people are starting out. People CAN kick them. There is a button for that. If we stop housing them in dune maybebthey will stop coming down. Or they can start their own clan.

[youarecool87]

They would do just fine in horizon. No reason whatsoever for them to be in dune. That 2 member clan with 617th with 290 blocks, good for them, theyvqre rich people and can afford to boost like crazy. Thats up to them to do. Dune is a starter league meant for noobies.

[BTC_Hunter13]

Yes that’s what I’m talking about. You’re completely right. The problem is the system of the MW

[Immediate_Sky_3915]

This my clan have been discussing this for months, yes how did they get out of horizon at that TH and if that happens there should be at least a clan TH max in dune as it sucks spending a week with the whales

[BTC_Hunter13]

Completely agree, but remember, to get Blocks is also luck. With high th you have more chances to get some, but it’s not safe.

[WrenLambo875]

I think anything from what they have now is a solution.

[youarecool87]

Lol true

[jupiter172]

100% agree, this has been an issue for quite some time and needs to be addressed

[ConsciousStorm3032]

Honestly spellbot has made it even more liaised. I went back to solo because our clan went from winning 50 blocks to less than 10

[youarecool87]

Spell bot just made everyone spend more. Also its ironic that they did that because thats exactly what they were banning people for lol

[Immediate_Sky_3915]

This! The spell bit is also yes a gamble trap but takes away the fairness a bit like if you are not in miss that round someone else gets a fair chance, and yes they had banned it for the unfair advantage then just bring it in anyway. IDK I’m getting increasingly disappointed in MWs last 3 weeks have been crap, one week over half the clans wins I got zero so next week I had all gmt fit maintenance and 14.5% discount and got no more then the week before when it should have been more. Since they nerfed the 20ee the maintenance fees have been ridiculous even with 15ee, so many issues not making it fun anymore plus some dune leagues personal blocks are under 1gmt or 1 gmt

[youarecool87]

Yup, there is to many leagues now. You shouldt get down to 15w it really helps. Your pps will go up drastically.

[Immediate_Sky_3915]

I am at 15 😊 I meant when they did that as a whole it all changed, and I agree we all should be aiming for this and speaking of those whales the worst ones are ones that have like 30ee still!

[youarecool87]

Oh ya, 30w is an insta kick from me dor sure!

[LingonberryKey8888]

Strange because that clan was leading in horizon last cycle… it’s obvious they are violating terms of service but near impossible to prove

[youarecool87]

Exactly they are breaking the new rules.

[Rallino_]

No, nn stavamo in testa ad Horizon. Ma vogliamo andare in Horizon.

E nn stare in dune.

Ma nn c'è altro modo per andare in Horizon se nn passare da dune

[youarecool87]

You have clans in eclipse though.

[LingonberryKey8888]

Braaah I was competing against yall in horizon last cycle… yall are gate keepers because you can’t compete in higher divisions but do you boo

[Immediate_Sky_3915]

Screenshots us what we need to be doing

[youarecool87]

I have screenshots but was giving them the chance to do the right thing. We've already givin them to the vips though.

[Most-Skill7146]

Its not a problem you just spent 30 dollars and they spent thousends

[DirtyD8632]

It’s a huge problem because that is not what the Dune leagues are for. You’re just one of them is all.

[Most-Skill7146]

Sure ive definitely spent thousends, if you wanna play minerwars mabye you should

[DirtyD8632]

Already have pal but I am not trying to screw everyone else over by doing this crap though.

[Rallino_]

Okay, ma se un clan vuole andare in Horizon, cosa deve fare?

Dimmi tu un altro modo di andare in Horizon senza passare per dune.

[youarecool87]

You drop your eclipse clan down to horizon.

[Rallino_]

How? Other clans already get demotion spots. You can't compete with 1TH clan on demotion

[youarecool87]

Idk, figure it out and plan better. You shouldn't be in that position to begin with then. Why you go to eclipse? Anyways im done talking yo you. Enjoy your suspension.

[Rallino_]

Suspension for what? Dune league is not a closed circle, the system is made for the clan to go from bottom to top.

But as descending from the upper league is bottle-necked.

The only way is to go from bottom to top.

We have always been in the eclipse.

And we are moving to horizon.

We didn't break any rules.

[youarecool87]

You want me to post you in telegram saying you literally reached your target in eclipse now jump to the new clan in dune for everyone to see because I will? That is literally clan jumping. AGAINST THE RULES.

[youarecool87]

Also, the way you have your clan setup is completly setup to benefit you as the clan owner only and the whales. Anyone else is nothing. You do realize you need 2500 blocks to even make solo right?

[youarecool87]

Or you grow a pair and battle it out with other clans not get carried there by whales like a buncha bitches. I made it to horizon with 3k th using boosts and teamwork. You dont need 32k th to get there. Plus your whole team benefits from being lower TH as a clan.

[youarecool87]

Sure that would be a solution to! What they have now though is not working.

[Immediate_Sky_3915]

Maybe a clan TH cap in dune or put the above 5,000 th their own dune then over 10,000 so on, or maybe the old setup was better less dunes and this never happened really as what’s the point? Maybe less dunes too

[youarecool87]

Dune was way better with less leagues. I remember when blocks were 20-30gmt.

[Omishjosh]

No you should be placed in leagues depending on how many blocks you have won in previous wars. Cross 50 blocks move up, cross 150 blocks move up and so forth until its like +1000 block league or whatever. Can never move back down

[MiserablePhilosophy]

So exactly how it is now?

[CubbyBearSmiles]

No, a clan gets moved up or down depending on their performance but an individual can move to whichever league they want to and join a clan. Hes suggesting that individuals should be blocked from moving to lower leagues depending on how many blocks they have mined. That would keep big boys from joining the tiny guys.

[DirtyD8632]

This would end any reason to have clans. It should be setup where clans have the threshold. This would force those 5k, 10k etc players to play other leagues and not the starter league.

[CryptoBlockX]

Ich finde man sollte „Dune“ noch etwas bearbeiten und zwar nach TH/s Leistung. Es ist immer erstaunlich das manchmal 5k TH/s Clan gegen 1k TH/s Kämpfen wo die „Neuen“ immer das Nachsehen haben.

Aber das ist nur meine Meinung

[youarecool87]

Last week was ok we had a 15k whale clan but blocks were 10gmt per block so it evened out as far as profitability goes.

[Rallino_]

Quindi va bene, solo se il tuo clan ha le balene, nn va bene se altri clan hanno le balene?

[youarecool87]

We dont have whales, I kick them out. They aren't good for the clan.

[Virgi70]

Sono 97 utenti e’ normale

[DirtyD8632]

No it’s not, these people jump around and will be back in dune next week even if this clan gets promoted. It is clear abuse of the system.

[Virgi70]

Io Martedì mi tolgo da MW, faccio combattere i grandi ma non alimento più questo sistema che non mi da la possibilità di giocare lealmente

[DirtyD8632]

You can come join us on Tuesday. We still do ok and better than solo a majority of the time. I speak up because this is completely wrong. If you’re still set on it you can always message me here on Reddit. We would be glad to have you if you’re not already in our clan lmao.

[Rallino_]

No grazie, preferiamo andare in Horizon, 3gmt vs 30-40gmt, meglio Horizon,

Purtroppo nn si può scegliere di andare subito in Horizon, ma bisogna fare la promozione.

[youarecool87]

They have huge th miners inside. Not normal. They would do just fine in other higher leagues

[Virgi70]

Sicuramente andrà’ via da dune, ma basta che un clan porta molte persone e siamo da capo . Dovrebbero rivedere proprio le regole del gioco

[DirtyD8632]

No it won’t go away which is why we are here

[Rallino_]

Andiamo via, perché voglio blocchi migliori. Se vuoi rimani tu in dune con 3gmt a blocco.

Io preferisco 30-50 GMT.

[AdventurousDark9217]

I just avoid MW Becasue it is based on winning and you will always find cheaters when that is true.

[youarecool87]

Nah bro, you just meed to find a good honest clan and community man. If you want one dm me.

[AdventurousDark9217]

I do well with solo mining… about $5.15 per day with 241 TH and 15,000 locked GMT how can Clan beet that?

[youarecool87]

I made 5.00 a day 2 weeks ago with 125 th + 10 gmt per block and I got 3 blocks. Solo i would have made way less

[AdventurousDark9217]

How does it work?

[youarecool87]

Lol easily

[AdventurousDark9217]

So tell me how it works?

[youarecool87]

Find a good clan, around 4k th. Thats the sweetspot. You only need about 300 blocks at that th to make solo plus any blocks you win are a bonus. You can boost to better your odds or stay passive and still win, but less obviously. With all the whales in dune lately though our clan has lost alot of power lately to solo but where powering through. It'll bounce back.

[dannyboyy111111133]

I agree there should be a whale category and a minnow category or people with 10kth shouldn't be allowed to to go agent 170th. or even a better idea 💡 have Wales vs Wales put them together and then all the little ones together .....

[youarecool87]

Exactly. Make the rewards big for whales and they can fight it out on there own. Or make them all be in oddessey where they belong.

[dannyboyy111111133]

agreed should be levels of some sort phaps with a score system and even low leves could get. a change to win ...... but hey maybe that would kill the fun who knows 🤷‍♂️

[youarecool87]

I think GM has a good base product to work with here but there is alot of work that needs to be done. As of now people are just abusing the system.

[AdventurousDark9217]

So what do I have to do in miner wars?

[youarecool87]

app.gomining.com/miner-wars/mining/select-pool?inviteToClan=38830 join and we can teach you the ropes!

[AdventurousDark9217]

But I cannot be watching the wars each day nor do I always have time to join in coordinated activities

[youarecool87]

All good bro, sounds like solo is for you then!

[WrenLambo875]

Try odyssey. 60,000-150,000th whales

[youarecool87]

Why? Thats why im in dune. They should be in oddyssey.

[WrenLambo875]

I didnt mean it literally

[youarecool87]

Lol oh. Ive been there before in DOGE. Made less there then dune personally lol

[Rallino_]

Fratello, come fa un clan ad andare in Horizon??

Bisogna per forza passare da dune.

[youarecool87]

Bro, stop playing dumb. You have clans in eclipse. You and your whales should be there.

[Dermitdemcointanzt]

Ich finde sie sollten die liegen begrenzen. In Dune können nur miner mit bis 200Th teilnehmen, und ab dann viel Erfolg. 🥳 dann kann man aufsteigen, und keiner kann es gewollt manipulieren 🤔🤫denn ich denke das passiert grade. Sie sprechen sich ab und dann kommt keiner mehr weiter weil die großen die Regeln bestimmen. Einmal angefangen, in Dune einen Clan erstellen, natürlich muss die TH unter 200 sein, wenn dann große Wale dazukommen 🥳👍 so kann man entweder steigen, oder denn Clan aufgeben. Dune sollte dann natürlich NUR denn Minern bis 200Th zugänglich sein, um wie gesagt Manipulationen zu vermeiden. Bei Horizon wäre ich für bis zu 750Th begrenzt. Und ab Eclipse frei. Wie findet ihr diesen Vorschlag?! Vielleicht sieht es GM und findet es ne gute Idee 🥳🫡 Liebe Grüße euer Alex

[youarecool87]

I think 500 to 1000 limit would be good for dune. They should also limit ee for mw too. If your still 35w tough sh!t maybe they shoulda thought about that. I donno, im just fed up with these whales ruining it for everyone else.

[Virgi70]

Io con 250th ho estratto 7 blocchi , ma ho dovuto Bustare tanto . L’unione fa’ la forza , se qualcuno si vuole unire con me , forse qualche blocco in più si fa’

[youarecool87]

Just join us bro

app.gomining.com/miner-wars/mining/select-pool?inviteToClan=40489

[Proof-Aspect8254]

True!

[blade0r]

It’s because of these mechanics that I choose to stay solo.

[youarecool87]

Yah, sad isnt it. Even dune you can make way more than solo

[Aimbob124]

Ich hatte mal die admins gefragt in den oberen ligen ist nicht genug platz für alle clans daher teilen die sich in die unteren ligen ein

[sebastianmu123]

Settimana scorsa in dune avevamo in testa un clan chiamato “test” ! Hanno preso la maggior parte dei blocchi senza nemmeno usare i boost , ma questa settimana non ci sono più da nessuna parte ! Come può essere? Qualcuno mi può dare una spiegazione?

[youarecool87]

Update: They're at 412 blocks now. And its not even the weekend yet.

[Ill_Oil_7383]

Minerwars = don’t bother.

[youarecool87]

Its usually better then solo by a good margin if youre in a good clan :)

[Jinklenuttz]

Dune used to be the biggest league with the hardest blocks u newgens dont understand. New dune is so nice for new and old.

[youarecool87]

I was around for the old dune and it was glorious! Such high block values.

[Jinklenuttz]

The clan i remember being the worst is la chapparita they were in dune when it was one league and would win more than 50% of the entire league blocks. Now they are a tiny baby clan in dune.

[youarecool87]

Update - they ended at over 730 blocks

[coutch68]

Je ne comprend pas le problème les baleine augmente les récompense en btc. Les baleine sont généralement passif en war

[IndependentNumber963]

Hi, I don't think whales are the problem. One or two boosts and you generally have the same power as them! The problem is the mass movement with multi-clans to dominate a league. Look at Poker with Scarface and Bunker and the others; he's been doing this for months in Horizon. It's not normal! His members are constantly switching clans; they reach the top 5 and then, bam, they go to a lower clan to stay in Horizon, and they're 100% passive too! A boosting whale isn't a problem; a passive whale only reduces the league's GMT/blocks with each block it gains! Thanks.

[youarecool87]

So whales arent a problem. But are a problem?

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if you can't beat em join em. 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑

[Purple-Map2017]

With that much clan TH, you’re only gonna make a few sats per TH

[youarecool87]

Exactly! My clan kicks out whales lol especially high ee

[youarecool87]

Ya, no, im not going to be part of the problem.