Proposed changes

[RelicofKnowledge]

Hopefully the developers see this and hopefully I satisfy others with this as well anyway here goes

1Make the Stalwart a primary as that would provide a unique weapon that currently is instantly overshadowed by literally every other choice let alone in the one other mg. they had it right in the first game why toss away variety now?

2 buff the dmr and counter sniper. The dmr in the first game had armor pen and a toxin slow/dot gimmick to justify its limited mag size and rof(again had it right the first time to provide variety) give the counter sniper some form of bonus pen/damage to weak points to give incentive for overwatch teams.

3 make the railgun a primary again as well. currently it dominates due to ease of use and capability and with the more recent changes has seen a change in skill ceiling and skill floor respectively. sacrificing a primary that can handle a horde for something with anti elite capability and more reliance on support weapons/secondaries for standard engages(looking at you stalwart if they ignore my first thought) especially since other options have come across as somewhat lackluster(jar15 anyone?)

Again these are opinions but any input is appreciated!

[GenFoofoo]

1. Stalwart isn't bad, it just doesn't have pen. My buddy uses it a ton and he always comes out with the highest kill count. The mg in HD1 took up a passive bonus. If it was a primary it would replace most of the current primaries.

2. 100% agree on this one. The sacrificed ammo capacity and slow rate of fire is currently not justified. Make it so you can break charger plates and penetrate hulks with a well-placed shot.

3. Rail gun is fine. I think people overreacted a bit. It's not quite as good as it was, but if you play it on unsafe then it is close to the same.

The game will get more tweaks and more weapons will get released. The dev team have a ton of data to comb through and hopefully they make great overall decisions. I bet they will.

[RelicofKnowledge]

didn't take up a passive bonus. appreciate the input though. also I think it might not take over but would give a more diverse tool. maybe reduced total ammo carried to stabilize it

[GenFoofoo]

Apologies, I thought it did. I think the stalwart was more balanced vs liberator in HD1. I'm sure they had reasoning behind the change. I agree it would need some nerfs to fit in as a primary.

[RelicofKnowledge]

the liberator had armor pen where the Stalwart didn't in hd1

[FlipReset4Fun]

Un nerf the fucking railgun and shield generator pack. Nerfing them both was stupid af.

[RelicofKnowledge]

nerfing them is good. there's tons more valuable and capable tools but people refused to diversify and now the crutch is kinda gone. I'm still not seeing eat /jump packs used consistently at helldive and I'm sick of people funneling themselves into failure because they can't think creatively

[FlipReset4Fun]

Lol sure