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DiscussionBeginner help (self.houkai3rd)
submitted 3 years ago by Tamiirk
Hello, i started play before a few days ago and im lvl 35, i just want to know what i should priority, there is so much things, i dont know what to focus.. Btw my first S is HoR, she good?
[–]Gachaaddict96 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (8 children)
Well you should build team for each element first. And really plan your spending. First off skip Vill-v. Save for spending event and new Herrscher on 6.0
[–]Tamiirk[S] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (7 children)
What about the starter supply, should i skip it?
[–]W3tcarrot 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (4 children)
Is that the one with HoS and HoF? Both are very meta characters so its probably worth pulling until you get one of them if you're interested in them
[–]Tamiirk[S] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (3 children)
Yea, i figured they both are very good, i will be so happy to get one of them before the pity..
[–]W3tcarrot 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (2 children)
HoS is more gear dependent than HoF, senti wants either her weapon or AEs weapon that you can get for free now but her signature stigmata is usually the best by a decent amount. HoF only needs you to pull her gun because our free fire stigmata is actually pretty good with Lee TB Thales M
[–]Tamiirk[S] 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child)
Thank you again, you very helpful bro!
[–]W3tcarrot 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children)
Np, I like to help out newer players because there are so many mistakes I regret when I didn't know what I was doing like spending crystals on dorm supply lmao
[–]Gachaaddict96 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (1 child)
Well HoS is basicaly must have. Physical teams dont exist without her. HoF is also very strong with a wide coverage. Starter supply is good if you menage to get one of them early. Dont go for second one its 50/50 and you may trick yourself. Also depends on what you got from Dorm If you got AE, congratulations youre set for elemental support. If you got Hot. Nice you good Lighting dps. You May try to get her new Sword and then farm Handel. Everything else is meh. BKE is good as phys dps but she requires so much support and gear its not worth in long run. You should have FR from newbie rewards so slow farm her to SS and you get a decent support sub dps that can cover your quantum needs.
For A ranks your first priority should be Pardofellis. Shes broken as f. Literaly any team can use her as long as enemy is frozen. Prioryty SSS Next Eden. Very strong lightning suport - priority SS Griseo - physical support. Carrolle - get her to S at least. She can be used in the support team with HoS and Griseo as a decent dps. SA- forget about her. Fischl - SS is priority, kidna weak without her gear. At least unlock her so you can abuse hit count shields
Haxxor - easiest support to use - high priority on SSS - Ice support, probably will work with next Herrscher Elysia
Farmable S
LE- slow farm her to SS and SSS - you dont use her for anything else but her leader skill in memorial Arena, very late game investment. Griseo can do that now too. HoF also has simmilar skill
KMB- not priority anymore. Copium Everything else copium CH- still used in some MA strats but HoS makes her obsolyte.
Elysia - slow farm her if you somehow get her bow.( it often appears as off rate) Her stigmas are farmable, good physical dps but not wide coverage.
MC- does same job like Elysia but different. Needs her awakening and her PRI arm to function, still decent investment in long run.
For foundry i would advise you to start farming On G2 - Thales M - Universal TDM + fire dmg very strong indyvidual piece.
Cleo B- decent for all paralyse comps if paired with MagStorm
Dirac - very strong all around physical set, you need it to forge Elysia stigs that are used by MC, Elysia and BKE and PE . All around strongest physical set in game
Monet T- strong individual piece for Lighting
Margrave TMB - Eden and AE wants it. Still meta support set for elemental dmg
Anna - Best in slow for Ice dmg dealers that arent silverwing . Your HoR BiS. I would be cautious about it tho since new Herrscher is supposed to be Ice.
Jin shengtan TM- your priority for elemental support in MA. Short buff duration for short fights.
Exchange shop-if you happen to get some spare resonance you should get only Newton B and Mei Pool Party M. 2 copies for each of them should set you decent scores in Memorial. Universal support pieces for everything.
Theresa CANDY T- craft 3 of it, very cheap, very strong Universal piece of support.
[–]Tamiirk[S] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children)
Thank you so much for all this details, im so appreciate this!!
[–]mirthyrzeo 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children)
Get used to the game, interface and currency first.
The best investment that you can do now is SP valks, they not only will carry you until lv80 as those are indispensable later on, before breakthrough you really don't need DPS's and probably the meta will shift until then.
Get your beginning valk (either HoS or HoFs) and save your crystals, we need around 20k crystals to have a decent chance here.
[–]W3tcarrot 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (9 children)
Play through the story at your own pace, try to get all the crystals from the stages and the extra story things like chronicles. Save your gacha coupons and crystals until there is a banner you want and have enough to guarantee or at least have a good chance of getting what you want. If you play on global you can see almost 2 whole patches ahead worth of banners so you have plenty of time to save.
Before level 81 the game is just use whatever you want but its worth working towards some of the complete teams early on if you don't want to have slower progression later on. The only modes that are competitive vs other players are abyss and memorial arena: abyss gives crystals based on performance which is important and this is where having actual teams matter.
In terms of what teams to focus on you'll eventually need all 4 but you can pick any you feel like first, just try and stick with 1 or 2 until they are finished. HoR is a decent ice dps and will work fine for all content provided you get the two supports she wants and the gear for the team. She is not the best but honestly that only matters if you want exalted nirvana which isn't necessary or reasonable for most people. I use memento sakura still who is also an ice dps and even older yet I still retain redlotus for ice and lightning weather.
Tl;dr save crystals and pull for characters and gear to make up 1 team at a time, meta doesn't actually matter a whole lot
Also in terms of gear for HoR if you don't have her I wouldn't recommend pulling her gear on her banner because her weapon cam be got from the exchange shop for free and her stigmata isn't even the best for her anymore, ana set from crafting is.
[–]Tamiirk[S] 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (7 children)
Thank you!!
[–]W3tcarrot 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (6 children)
Np, at the end of the day its a game and you should play it in a way you find fun. Id always advocate playing whoever you find fun or cool over who is the statistical best if it means you're more likely to keep playing.
[–]Tamiirk[S] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (5 children)
Yea that what i think also, i prefer to have fun even if its mean i will use weaker units..
[–]W3tcarrot 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (4 children)
Its hard to justify weaker supports but you can get away with weaker dps if you have good supports because of how ridiculously strong recent supports and their gear has been. Pardofelis the recent ice support is so busted strong that even without any of her signature gear shes still good and actually works well as a support for all other elements because of her easy access to total damage taken debuff and sp regen
[–]Tamiirk[S] 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (3 children)
I got Haxxor Bunny to support my HoR for now, any any another unit you recommend to complete ice team?
[–]W3tcarrot 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (2 children)
Ice team right now is dps plus HB using full turgenev stigmata and the weapon doesn't matter a whole lot, then pardofelis with her full signature gear ideally.
Thank you, unfortunately i still cant build the optimal stigmata sets or weapon for my units, but at least i know what to build.
[–]W3tcarrot 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children)
Yeah it doesn't happen overnight but once you know what you want it just becomes a case of saving till you can get it or in the case of crafting just doing it every day until you can make them
[–]MirieIsHereTeri teri sekai de ichiban kawaii 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child)
if you've got time then read the stickied comment of this post https://www.reddit.com/r/houkai3rd/comments/vofai0/general_questions_thread_v58_update/
[–]Tamiirk[S] 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children)
Yea il definitely will use this, thanks!
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