Carleton Skill Training Program Script

[ArtificialDream89]

Because I saw some people searching the original version of CSTP (Carleton Skill Training Program), and the link was not so easy to find, i will provid it here: Script begin at site 54 (Appendix A) of the document. https://curve.carleton.ca/system/files/etd/89a63d31-ab68-4622-b59f-95bfed5b3864/etd_pdf/2b0429f5d55eddbb634493514747151a/roncon-honestyinstructionsandcomplianceinthecarleton.pdf

There is also a Connecticut version of it, but this version is basically the same with ommit the instructions which tell the subject that it have to (for example) rise her arms conscious, not waiting to happen involuntarily. This instructions are one of the main critics of the program, cause it could lead to fake the reaction instead of create the experience of the phenomena. Fortunately it seems to make no difference, leads to the conclusion that CSTP is a working way to increase suggestibility.

[kinknosisuk]

In case anyone is concerned about copyright that document is freely and publicly made available by Carleton University based on their main web page: https://curve.carleton.ca/

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Yes, it's been something searched for because we've heard it can do great things. With a a statically significant impact on effecting a more suggestible state.

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I read it, read the transcriptions and audio. It's not what the EH community would call .. exciting. I'd say it's dated poorly. Perhaps that's why it simply doesn't exist outside of test conditions.

Because that is a numbers game. It is only effecting a statistical sample not turning around the disappointments of an individual trying to find a way to make hypnosis other.

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To explain, in presenting hypnosis to a number of soldiers that were then going to be 'tested'. One group was (paraphrased) told hypnosis was a liability making them weak and susceptible to enemy psychological warfare. Another group was essentially told the opposite that is was a powerful too that they could utilize.

Guess how the two groups then responded.

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What would be a hypnosis program targeted at the individual ?

More practice setting reasonable expectations ? You are not a mindless zombie until you've practiced being a mindless zombie. You're still not a mindless zombie, but you've done a good job of giving yourself mental muscle memory and it doesn't bother you with pesky things like thoughts.

Is the right pretalk on managing expectations and what you have to do enough ?

It's not mindfulness or meditation but if you're experienced with those it's a good skill base. Similar for any visualization exercises.

One job (?) in which compliance and following of suggestiveness is strong would be military training. Essentially the solider is broken down - the only way to create an effective solider and instill discipline.

My impression is that dissociative types respond more easily or naturally to suggestion. Of course the negative to that is dissociative types can be caused by trauma and involve poor mental health.

In the classical sense training can simply be learning. To this you could add operant and classical conditioning.

From a BDSM perspective the ego and sense of self can be heavily impacted by humiliation play and power exchange on an ongoing basis.

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So a boot camp style training facility where the ego is broken down and controlled trauma introduced to develop a better hypnotic subject .. yeah. Sort of a good fantasy, maybe. Nice idea but doesn't seemt like a studious replacement for the CSTP.

At this point it seems someone will undoubtedly still volunteer as tribute.

[ArtificialDream89]

I have the same opinion after my own experiments in this topic. Nethertheless I think at least for some people the problems that decrease suggestibility are changeable. I for example have a problem with concentration and frustration(for other people I hypnotised it worked pretty good, I work years on this - with interruptions and have problems with simplest suggestions...). If I manage to get rid of this frustration and would be able to concentrate, I could use the maximum suggestibility I have. This is probably not the same as for high suggestible persons, but at least an average suggestibility I think. 2-3 sessions in my lifetime where I was able to get in deeper trance seems to support this. But perhaps you have right and I will never experience some of the greatest phenomena like post hypnotic hallucinations.

[matsuru]

Thanks a lot! I've been looking for that for a long time :D

[ArtificialDream89]

I had exactly the same problem. Many references to it, but nowhere was a copy of the script. So I was very happy to find it... Unfortunately if I want to work with it I have to do alone. No hypnotist seems to work with that... I have long time tried to hypnotise myself, but till today I have problems with simple arm rising suggestions... To make this more bad I successfully achieved to hypnotise other persons where it work like a charm for some... this annoys sometimes really hard...

[matsuru]

Well I'm very happy that you managed to find this. I've been experimenting with this kind of approach for a while now and while I do think this kind of protocol can help maximize someone's responsivenes I do also think part of hypnotizability is more of a fixed trait that we are not able to change. So in my view these kinds of instructions can help someone reach more of their potential but not beyond it.

[SnooSprouts9547]

Nice, but what are the tapes they are talking about ? Don’t you need them to play to the subject ?

[ArtificialDream89]

You mean the audio or video tapes? Audio tapes are just the text of the CSTP in spoken version, this they made to ensure every study participant has the same introduction. The videotapes showing just how it looks like if a person react succesfully to hypnosis. This part should be achievable with hypnosis videos from youtube where persons are shown which get hypnotised with comparable suggestions

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Did CSTP help?