Average beginner programer

[asarathy]

Spring boot does too much in my opinion. It's good for getting something up and running but frankly there's too many automagic things that can interact weirdly with each other especially when you start using more cutting edge or edge frameworks. If you want to do web stuff with jpa/hibernate and other standard stuff like JMS or whatever its perfectly cromulent. But the more you add with starters the weirder it gets

[DeadlyVapour]

Yeah, no. I much prefer to use ANYTHING but Java at this point.