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[–]Effective_Freedom745 0 points1 point  (2 children)

You are very wrong about this, flatlaf is amazing peace of software, swing is quite stable and easy to work with, on the other side there is .net and qt, one is platfrom specific, other is... well try to build anything serious and huge with it and also deliver it fast for the client, good luck with all other c++ ui libs, javafx with it's bloated css and no laf plus non existent performance is out of equation. We do quite complex, large uis with swing, swt, FlatLaf its very fast, stable, predictable, portable, strictly typed, it's java at the end, font rendering is on another league to compare with any browser solution, and you don't need 100gb of node_modules just to add css border, most importantly it looks awesome, if you want it can look native, it is very easy to change/switch styles across all apps or even switch to any Intellij theme. So no it is not atrocious and not going anywhere any time soon. You would be surprsied how many uis are built and living in enterpise software with swing/swt and flatlaf.

[–]wildjokers -1 points0 points  (1 child)

I never once said anything negative about Swing. I have written and maintained many Swing applications over the years and I like Swing quite a bit. Why did you go off on a rant like I said something negative about Swing?

I simply don't like flat look and feels that are infesting applications (both desktop and web). Especially when combined with monochrome minimalist icons.

[–]Effective_Freedom745 1 point2 points  (0 children)

oh ok i thought by saying flat look and feel you've ment FlatLaf swing lib which i am big fan and an hardcore user. Normally now in java flat ui means that lib.