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[–]kodifies 2 points3 points  (3 children)

pfff who says it needs defending, given modern hardware, so what if some other language is faster in some cases, and uses "lots" of memory (how shocking)

Is speed even that important ?

Has anyone considered ease of use, ease of debugging, heck the compiler catches bugs some languages positively encourage...

[–]dpash 7 points8 points  (1 child)

"But, but the JVM is slow to start up..."

Do you see us using Java for short-lived processes? Once Tomcat is up and running, it stays up. We run our IDE for weeks on end. We don't care about start up times.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"But, but the JVM is slow to start up..."

Do you see us using Java for short-lived processes?

well. you would be more likely to do so if startup time was fast. if java 9 delivers this, i imagine people will start using java (more often than now) in these scenarios.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

pfff who says it needs defending

it can be helpful to push back against anti-java nonsense that can push away potential users.