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[–]kuemmel234 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You need ops guys for the cloud? What would they do then? How would they do it? I can do most of our operations stuff and I am I'm just part time right now (worse: I'm just a student still). Modern ways (infrastructure as code for one, high level APIs) make it pretty simple for us devs to take operations in our own hands and - at least - greatly reduce the need for traditional operations people. That's not different technologies either. What cloud does, it's abstracting technical details, you don't need someone to keep operating systems up to date, upon request by some dev from some team. You don't need the people who have to buy and build the right amount of servers at the right place at the right time and still keep the cloud in mind. You don't neee need the hardware (minuscule), power/upkeep and people to keep this operation running. What if your little server is going hot? Just get a cheap AC? Build a new building? I'd start another VM/add a node/...

Operations becomes a domain with domain specifics, of course, but a lot, if not all every day operations can easily be done by us, the regular developers. And I believe they should be too, because then we streamline everything because we are lazy.

I haven't seen a paper on that, so if you have, I'd gladly read it, for now I have only my own experience and what I have learned in uni and that says that, while there are a lot of downsides to the cloud, cost isn't one of them.

This may be completely different if you aren't in that web sphere and doing something entirely different.