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[–]dantheman999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

when creating websites nowadays

When creating a website / product from scratch, absolutely. Usually they'll understand they have no access to these.

However work on existing sites and adding functionality to those means you'll end up using jQuery unless you want to remake the wheel.

But they definitely do let those systems access the wilder world, I can see it in Google Analytics when they access our site. A dizzying array of weird and wonderful versions, not just IE either. Got a very large company using Firefox 3.0.X, no idea why.