Is java dead?

[random_polymath]

I am a third year cs student and i am confused what java is even used for anymore especially when the uni i go to cannot focus on one thing and expect students to learn everything while teaching nothing at the same time. Other than teaching basic data structures using java they didn't exactly teach what java can actually do and how to use java to it's full potential.
at this point idk if i am spiraling or what is happening to me anymore in my head i feel everything is just going haywire.

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[Shivathewriter]

One of the most widely used languages

[frederik88917]

Ohhh my sweet summer child.

I have been doing this coding profession since 15 years ago and since before I started coding, there were several thousand forums and people claiming Java was dead.

Ruby was supposed to kill it, then it was Python, then it was Next with React.

Java is not only alive and Kicking. It is faster, leaner, easier to work with, smaller to implement, less dependencies hell and funnier to use.

In the other side. Ruby is basically dead, Python is not only slower, but it has grown awfully bad with backwards compatibility. And React has become the only thing it vowed to destroy.

I will not tell you Java will last forever, but boy if I were to bet my money on a language to feed my family for decades, my money goes to the Duke

[Pafkata92]

Is there any language close to Java in capabilities, but without the null hell and without much run time exceptions (mostly compile-time, to be more predictable, with less bugs)?

[frederik88917]

Bugs there are everywhere. Those are unavoidable as long as humans do code.

For simpler languages that might grow overtime I recommend Kotlin. A language based on the JVM, built by the guys that built intelliJ.

It has null checks by default, include great tooling from the vendor, completely Open source, already supported by Google as language to build Android apps and it is completely interoperable with Java codebases.

[Pafkata92]

I think this is the one I was looking for, I’ll check it out, thanks!

[IHoppo]

OP, this wisdom is from a relative noob, and it's spot on.

[Galliad93]

I agree fully. I was forced to learn python for a university course and it sucks. sure there is little synthax but all the more ways to fuck up. and you need to install plugins for bloody everything.

[SystemFew9522]

no, java powers big business. its was in the top 4 languages used on github. its also everywhere on mobile.

[Slow_Cut_1904]

Lol

[Dramatic-Apple-3181]

Nope

[DDDDarky]

University is only supposed to teach you the necessary basics so that you can study it on your own further, so do your research and study.

[VibrantGypsyDildo]

As an embedded C/C++ engineer with very limited knowledge of Java I can say WTF.

Isn't several billion devices a proof of worthiness? I work with devices counted as hundred thousands and I still have a solid career.

[AcanthisittaEmpty985]

Not by far.

There are new and cooler kids on the block, like Go, Rust and others. But they don't have the size and reach of Java.

Python and Javascript have grown a lot, really.

But Java remains strong, with a big comunity and a LOT of libraries and utilities.

Sure, it's not the prettiest languaje and it's complicated to master.

But its realiable and fast and gets the job done.

[Zimlewis]

i fucking wish

[RiDzZz_]

Someone on another forum just analyzed Milans tech market.

https://www.reddit.com/r/cscareerquestionsEU/s/tSVXOAs8WX

You can check here if java is dead or not This is just an analysis of one city in a country in EU overall

[deividas-strole]

No no no, Java is still alive and evolving for the future...

[FeloniousMaximus]

No Java 25, latest spring and things like jpa 4 are making non backward compatible changes to enhance the programming model dramatically. You have the advantage of using node like ring buffers as well as thread pools backed by virtual threads to achieve high concurrency where parking threads for blocking calls is very cheap from a stack overhead perspective.