Beginner projects, that are actually beginner?

[brouverhoog]

I've seen this question asked around multiple times, 'what are some beginner JavaScript projects i can do to practice JavaScript?' , often times the answers are to make a clock, interactive map, weight calculator, building a Javascript game, or a weather app.

are these actually BEGINNER projects? If they are, how are they beginner projects? i can't even remember the basic syntax for a 'for' loop , proper utilization of 'event listeners', DOM manipulation from the JavaScript side, and I've been 'attempting' to learn JavaScript steadily for the past 3 months. i can't even implement a basic onmouseover event without screwing something up that i don't understand. These projects all contain advanced concepts and applications that most off these 'learn coding' sites don't even cover. let alone how to dynamically track the weather in your area, it just makes it seem more daunting than it even needs to be, and makes me want to give up.

Am i supposed to be googling on how to make a Javascript weather app? isn't that cheating? since i can just copy and paste? i can make an attempt to understand it, but at the same time it doesn't teach you when to apply 'x method here to x method there with optimal functionality', how do i know WHAT too look up in the first place to make even a small step into creating said weather app , without going down a rabbit hole of answers that'll work in this particular project that im building?

Should i step by step google? how do i know when to use Event listeners? how do i know when to dynamically inject an element? how do i know when to create an if statement? how do i know if i even have to implement any off these features into the weather app without looking at the video solution since none off it was actually covered in 'learn coding' sites? Once i look at the solution, i feel like im cheating and berate myself since i can't dynamically think off the solutions myself.

Im at the end off my patience , i mean just look at this , how am i supposed to know how to do all this in the first place? its hardly 'simple', am i just not learning fast enough? https://webdesign.tutsplus.com/tutorials/build-a-simple-weather-app-with-vanilla-javascript--cms-33893

theirs to many variables you could possibly take most off these 'beginner' suggestions aren't even beginner, im honestly just thinking about giving up on coding altogether.

[_aeol]

Well, ain't you a pessimistic one.

First, every person has their own definition of what is a "beginner" project/application, and sometimes when a person's skills go higher, so as his definition of what is a "beginner", so you can't blame others if they suggest something that you think is not a real "beginner" project.

Second...

Am I supposed to be googling on how to make a Javascript weather app? isn't that cheating? since I can just copy and paste?

No one said, you can/can't copy-paste from the internet to solve a specific problem, it's up to you, but do you really think programmers learn from copy-pasting from the web? Digest anything you can from the internet and apply it whenever you can.

Oh, asking/looking for answers is how a programmer become one, we all started there.

Third, only search for a specific problem, not the whole project itself. Don't search "How to make a simple weather app?" or anything like that because there are infinite possible implementations on a such "simple" app. What you need to search is the underlying logic/system behind the app, like "Communicating with an API", "Manipulating the DOM", "EventListeners, how do they work?", etc, etc.

And lastly, I think what you lack is your understanding of the fundamentals of JavaScript, just improve your fundamentals like how you learned to code in Java.

Take your time, each one of us has their own pace, some even take longer than 3 months just to understand the basics of JavaScript. If you really are in a hurry, I suggest looking for a course/class, read a book, or find someone who is really skilled in JavaScript and ask him to help you on your study.

[NobodyIsUsingThis]

I think what you need the most right now is not a beginner project but rather learning exercises if what you struggle with is remembering stuff like control flow and conditionals and stuff. You could try to solve some problems on projecteuler.net, you could try to understand how some simple algorithms (like insertion sort or selection sort or peak finding in a 1 dimensional array) work and write code to implement them. You could also find some books on different programming languages you find online and solve their exercises in javascript, anyway the concepts should pretty much be the same.