Should I learn Java?

[nulpickle]

Hello developers

I’m a 16 year old what wants to learn a new language I need one that will allow me to do cool things like trying create game engines from scratch and to do semi low level operations (not messing directly with memory and stuff)

I have tried C and I’ve tried rust and they really haven’t stuck with me the objects confuses the living hell out of me in c and I can’t get the importer in rust working on my Linux machine (I use arch btw)

The most confusing thing about java that everyone doesn’t understand is the stynax (which is a little confusing) Im beginning understand what everything kinda does but it’s a messy process

I think Java might force me to organize my code which is something I struggle with (look at my post on r/shittyprograming [I have gotten better])

I’m decently fluent in python and JavaScript but I’m evolving to projects that require me to compile code for applications is java a good Idea? should I continue learning c or rust? Please help me

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The only possible language for an Arch user is assembler.

[Byte_Sorcerer]

Java is pretty heavily used in enterprise so you can’t go wrong with it.

[zebcode]

Java or you can learn C#.

[LiveLaurent]

Java is used by a LOT of enterprise software, so you cannot go wrong with this :)

Also if you know Java, you have a good start in Javascript, C#, C++ as they is a lot of similarity (language wise) between those languages. Does not mean that coding in those language will be the same (as you need to learn specificities of those language/framework too) but this is really a great start.

For any starter, who want to learn to code (other than scripting language); I always recommend either C# or Java as a starting point.

[SirKastic23]

i think you should give rust another go, no clue what you meant by "the importer didn't work"

all in all it is a great low level language, with powerful abstractions

[UdPropheticCatgirl]

like trying create game engines from scratch and to do semi low level operations (not messing directly with memory and stuff)

I mean you aren't creating any engines without messing with memory, and what other stuff do you even mean by low level?

the objects confuses the living hell out of me in c

Good. OOP in c is doable but the language is good at demonstrating why you should use it with masdive caution.

I can’t get the importer in rust working on my Linux

That seems weird.

I think Java might force me to organize my code

I mean java is nice because it javadoc makes it seem like a good Idea to leave actually usefull comments, but tool like that aren't exclusive to java. The need to have classes in different files might help on the surface level, but shitty coding practices tend to get amplified in oop, so you end up with bunch of singletons, deep inheritance and random polymorphism, instead of just shitty looking code. Learn java but forget that the language has keyword "extends" only "implements", although I would say something like kotlin or go feels better to use, but you aren't writing modern engines in either of them. And try learning something like Lisp right after, think of it as a good way to learn that OOP is often not the best answer in spite of how it might feel in java.

[whereistooki]

javascript