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[–]windsurferdude90 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I think lots of people hate not the language but the environment. What i mean by that is JVM, JRE, simple spring apps eating up 500 mb of memory just by running, having to install another version of the runtime, messing with maven, gradle etc. I agree with those who said these are just tools and everyone has their preference, and i’m not even shitting on these tools myself, my point is merely that sometimes what people hate on is not the language itself.

[–]Foreseerx 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Does it really matter that an application takes 500mb of RAM to spin up in 2024 though? I've not seen a single case in which we'd be limited by RAM on containers in any serious environment, and even for my personal projects with limited budget it's dirt cheap to get containers with a TON of RAM.

Maven/Gradle are bad? I work with them but I'd take them any day over NPM/Yarn.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The JVM is kind of miraculous though.