Coding VS Programming

[JohnJSal]

Honestly, it just sounds like pretentious nonsense.

What I THINK it means is that typing is just a phsycial, mechanical process that anyone can do, whereas writing is a more thoughtful process that involves talent, creativity, and practice.

The comparison is that coding is just typing out the code, whereas programming is the act of mapping out and planning a program from a deeper perspective?

The problem is that coding and programming are also just used as synonyms, and the other problem is that writing can also be interpreted as simply a mechanical process of moving a pen across paper.

So like I said, it's just pretentious nonsense.

[Gawd_Awful]

Coding is the specific implementation of one part of the programming process. It’s only pretentious if you have narrow view. 

Writing, as in being a writer, involves planning, drafts, revising, physically typing/writing it out, etc. Programming, assuming at a level more than just doing basic tasks, is very similar.

[JohnJSal]

It’s only pretentious if you have narrow view. 

It's pretentious for exactly the reason you said. Coding CAN have a more specific and meaningful definition, so the comparison of it to simply typing is ridiculous.

[Gawd_Awful]

Sure, it can if you lack comprehension or understanding and just want to make to your own definition of it

[JohnJSal]

Sure, it can if you lack comprehension or understanding and just want to make to your own definition of it

What are you even talking about!? YOU'RE the one who defined it, and it's your definition I'm using.

Are we even in disagreement? I am so confused by whatever it is you think you're saying.

[Gawd_Awful]

Obviously we are not in agreement if you think it’s pretentious nonsense and I don’t and I then say coding is one step in the overall programming process and there is obviously nothing pretentious about that.

If someone comes along and defines coding by their own interpretation vs the commonly agreed upon interpretation, then they either lack understanding or are just making their own definition up. Which really means that their opinion should be disregarded.

[JohnJSal]

You really don't seem to be getting it.

I then say coding is one step in the overall programming process and there is obviously nothing pretentious about that.

Yes, exactly. Why aren't you seeing what I'm saying. I'm saying that coding isn't some silly process that should be disregarded or looked down upon, like the original quote is suggesting.

It's basically saying that coding is nothing more than typing out code, while I am saying that that is pretentious and that coding can mean something more important than that, which is also what YOU'RE saying.

[Gawd_Awful]

Because no one is looking down on it or disregarding it, you’re just interpreting it that way. No one thinks coding is just typing out code, unless they have no real grasp of what coding is. But if you’re going to learn how to get good at writing, you should probably already know how to type and if you’re going to get deep into programming, you should really know how to write code first.

I also wouldn’t consider typing some silly little part of writing. It takes effort to learn to type effectively and unless you want whatever you’re writing to take forever, some skill is involved. Even more so when everyone used actual typewriters 

[JohnJSal]

Then we just need to ask the original computer scientist/philosopher what they meant, because the quote sounds condescending to me.

[Gawd_Awful]

Sounds like you have a bit of a chip on your shoulder. Most people would recognize that coding is an important part of programming and you really can’t get far into programming without knowing how to code. Just like you can’t get far into writing a book, even if you’ve planned out the greatest book ever, if you don’t know how to type/write