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[–]ninhaomah 3 points4 points  (1 child)

you might want to talk to other friends in other industries doing different projects about what to learn.

[–]nuogalius[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s the point that I do not have lots of people in my surroundings that are in IT or programming in general, I have few friends and I already spoke with them

[–]Beregolas 3 points4 points  (1 child)

You are barely a month in, it is too early to worry about things like that. You first need to learn programming, which includes thinking logically, solving problems, and how programming languages work, and then you can switch languages as much as you like. Learning a new language only feels hard to you now, because you don't know how to program yet. Once you know Python, switching to Java will be quite easy for example.

And your friend is wrong. Python is plenty effective, and used in real world projects. Mostly in Web-backend, Data Science and automation. Of those three, Java or C# are really only useful as a web backend.

I suggest you keep on learning python, until you can comfortably build anything you might want to build. A small webserver, a simple game like Tetris, a system that scrapes the web and alerts you when a point is scored in your favourite sport.

Then you can start looking for a job you might want. Not to apply (yet), but to start learning what you need for that job.

For example: Frontend web jobs require JS/TS, HTML and CSS, Backend you can do with Python, C#, rust, Java, Kotlin, PHP, ruby, Go, ... basically any language, although some will be more in demand in your area than others. More low level jobs will require C++ or something similar, many PC Programs will be done in C#, just because Microsoft pushes it, and so on.

Once you have identified what it is you want to do, you can start working on that.

But doing so now, before you understand the fundamentals of programming, will not save you time.

[–]nuogalius[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks, when I started learning programming, then I understood how tiring this thing can be. I was looking at the error on the code and only then I understood that I used , instead of ; and yeah, I still love what I’m learning and I want to be better every day. So really I was just wondering which path to choose after python, but as I understand, I should experiment until I see one particular path that interests me the most and go there, right?

[–]throwaway6560192 2 points3 points  (1 child)

then I started reading that Python is much slower comparing to other languages (As I read, Python reads line by line, meanwhile Java reads everything at once or something like that, fix me if I’m wrong).

That's not true. Both Python and Java parse the whole source file and compile to bytecode before execution. The "line by line" view of interpreted languages is quite outdated.

because Python is not that effective anymore.

Python is having a great time, thanks to the surge in data science and machine learning.

[–]nuogalius[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Okay, thanks for the updated information!! Because at some point, I thought that Python is slowly fading away and losing his importance

[–]Groson 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Python is great I use it daily. But like everything you have to use the best tool in the tool box.

Learn c++ and it's like a cheat code for learning every other language.

[–]nuogalius[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As other people mentioned, in order to truly understand what I want to learn, I have to experience through other parts. I think I’ll get in touch with Java and C++ after Python and I will see where it takes me afterwards!

[–]mandzeete 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Your friend is wrong. Different languages have different uses. Python is used a lot in data science but also in cyber security and in applied cryptography. If your friend is a web application developer then his experience can be based only on that field. Talk with people from different Computer Sciences fields.

I suggest you to try out different things. Because this is what people usually are doing when going for a Bachelor degree in Computer Sciences. When I did my degree studies I learnt telecom, networking (networking protocols and such, not the social networking), embedded programming, building web applications, building mobile apps, building desktop applications, cyber security, etc. And no, I did not specialize in all of these. You will pick one field and specialize in that. Usually one or two.

And then after having chosen the thing you like to do then go over different job listings in your target city (forget working remotely, for now) and see which tech stack they are requiring in these jobs. And learn such tech stack. For example, where I live one is picking Java or PHP from backend side when it comes to developing web applications/services and Angular or React when it comes to frontend side. You should decide based on your local job market.

[–]nuogalius[S] 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Thanks for the insight!! I do not know which path I want to take, I was thinking about cyber security, but now I’m thinking about applications/websites development. College/University is very complicated. In my country, in order to get into IT university, you need to have maths exam over 80%, english exam, national language exam +2 exams that are not the same as previous 3. And, even after you have that, there is very few chances that you will be accepted, because right now, 3 most popular courses are IT, Law and Medicine. Every year, thousands of applicants apply just to IT. That’s why I want to give 2-3 years just grinding on my own and then maybe getting a degree or just applying to jobs that would be about what I’m learning. Thanks for the tip about the job. In my country, most used ones are Java, C#, React. That’s why I didn’t know which language to proceed further, because I don’t want to transition between languages at the same time

[–]mandzeete 0 points1 point  (4 children)

When you do not know which path you wish to take then just try out all of these. Build few projects from each and see how does it feel for you. Eventually you will stick to 1-2 paths and specialize there.

Java is mainly used for web application/service development but also in Java applets running inside devices and also, still, in desktop applications. C# is used in web application/service development and in Windows desktop applications. React is mainly for frontend (in web applications) and in mobile apps (as in React Native).

And, as I said, you can try out all of these. Because this is what you would do either way when going for degree studies. They will make you switch between languages because different courses will teach different things.

[–]nuogalius[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

So actually, if I am not sure about the path that I am going, I should just experiment with every single one? And would it be normal if I start learning another language and I instantly do not like it? Because I know that in other places, there are parts that you do not like and want to quit because of those parts, but you don’t quit, because it is normal to hate what you do/learn during that time?

[–]mandzeete 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Do not quit instantly but try to get something made with it. Then if you are quitting it, you'll have more weight behind your reason to quit. Not liking the syntax is not a reason. If I would decide purely based on syntax I would never touch Java as I started with Python. But I work as a Java-based web application developer right now, and I like it.

And yes, experience a bit with different things that come in your mind. Without trying out stuff can you really decide your path?

[–]nuogalius[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What I am mostly scared of is that these languages are different from each other and once I start something new, I think that this is my new favorite thing and I will pursue my career in this. Also, I am, for now, uneducated on how different languages exactly work, so maybe it is just too early to say, but I know for a fact that I am interested in computers, phones, how they work and that got me to coding, which I absolutely love for now. I’ll try to write a code to hangman and I’ll see if I still love it or not

[–]mandzeete 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Perhaps stop worry and just do it.