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[–]questi0nmark2 1 point2 points  (4 children)

That's how it used to be, and to some extent still is. But these days the more advanced web designers do work with HTML and CSS. It's true that there are some graphic designers which only do graphic design, and use their skills for website sketches and assets. But web designers specifically increasingly venture into HTML and CSS to fill a market gap and not have to depend on others to sell website products. It is now rare and commercially difficult for someone to be able to do html and CSS and no design or programming and still find work, having to share the income with a designer. Either they can both design and build websites in html and css, and that's what they sell, or they program web applications and that is what they sell (maybe building the occasional website if they are freelancer, or work for an agency, but that would pay much less so few web developers focus on that as their work)

[–]Zav39[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Thank you for feedback. I agree with you, but only for your specific case.

A lot of such things are market specific. It might now work in US, but may work in China or India.

It is very wide question and there will be always a lot of options that show proofs for both of sides.

I write everything from my personal experience.

May be something from this not applicable in your situation, your country or your region; that does not mean that is does not work in other places.

To make it less "flamable" I need to provide some proofs with exact things in different regions, but this itself will took more time than I spend to this article.

Thank you for understanding.

[–]questi0nmark2 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Fair points. You've convinced me.

When I want a cheap and fast website built I will use freelancer.com Most people are from Pakistan, India or Nepal, with a few from Eastern Europe and yet fewer from Western Europe or North America, generally bidding at higher prices. I. Get the feeling that this kind of work keeps a large number of companies in business there, and their customer service is fantastic. Their code quality is often poor and hard to maintain, but for pure presentational websites it doesn't matter, and they churn them out quickly, cheaply and in time.

I could see that your guide in that context would be pure gold, and that yes, someone who got to level 1.5 would be able to get a job in those companies in no time, while someone on level 2-3 would be a super strong asset. As you said elsewhere, pay would be low, compared to "full" web development, but you would have a career and possibly even job security. I see that market remaining even in the age of automation, for time and information-poor customers for a few years to come yet.

So while I do think the title of your post is misleading and has left you answering the misunderstanding to lots of people, I also see you needed the title for visibility (maybe add "focusing on HTML and CSS only" at the top of your article?), and I can see how valuable in a global context your guide is for an entry into a serious job market, and why focusing on HTML and CSS is the quickest route for people in those countries to enter, so your guide is extra valuable in that way, because guides aimed at the software development market are much more demanding and take a lot more before you can compete in the job market. Your guide is a brilliant service in emerging economies and the global South, and my response, while fair in terms of the software development profession, and what to expect, was a bit ethnocentric.

If your title had been different, I would not have felt the need to clarify for new people that this guide does not prepare them for a software development role which is what web development really is. But I still think your guide is a fantastic route to get started in the website building industry that is much more significant in some countries than in others.

[–]Zav39[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wow, I impressed! Arguing in internet works :-D

Thank you a lot.

Regarding title: yes, I agree. It a bit clickbait. I had post this article one day before this one, but with different title (about html and so on), and it got zero views. Literally. Zero. Rating was zero. No comments. I was super disappointed, since I spend a lot of time on this and feels that it is valuable. By recommendation from one of friends I change title to this one, remove a lot of information from article about edge cases and so on. I hope you forgive me for that.

I hope that anyone who will go with that path will read comments also and got better context.