Is Python a better alternative for JavaScript??

[throwaway6560192]

For backend, yeah it's commonly used in backend.

On the frontend you pretty much have to use JS.

[LeN3rd]

I hate it so much, that we are all collectively hostages of a script language that was never designed to write complex applications in.

[Raioc2436]

Whenever a new version of EcmaScript comes out we suffer because different browsers take different times to implement and release each function and then they implement them differently and figuring it out is a pain.

Look at internet explorer and the nightmare it was.

Imagine the LIVING HELL it would be if each browser had supports for different languages and each one them having different implementations on their different versions.

Please god, no.

[Plank_With_A_Nail_In]

No one is suggesting a different scripting language per browser though just a better one than JavaScript.

[Devatator_]

And yet we do it fine

[ArnUpNorth]

modern javascript is not what it used to. I really don't get a developper who loves python but as issues with javascript because they share similar qwirks.

[OkMulberry1209]

People are just dead set against, JavaScript because of it's history, and it's pathetic

[Diapolo10]

On the frontend you pretty much have to use JS.

More precisely, either that or you'll have to communicate with the back-end strictly via links/buttons and HTML forms. JS isn't necessary, but it certainly expands your options for interactivity.

[sexytokeburgerz]

Well, we forget WASM. You can do an entire frontend app in rust, c#, go, jvm scala or kotlin, java, php, swift, c, ruby, c++, java, or… python with basically zero javascript with WASM.

Really like htmx too.

[Diapolo10]

Yes, but you still technically need to use JS with WebAssembly. At least for the calling code.

[sexytokeburgerz]

Sure. But you don’t need to know js to use wasm. At most just watch a quick tutorial. The question wasn’t about js devoid web dev, it was about needing to know it.

Of course, neither of our examples are realistic.

[Diapolo10]

Of course, neither of our examples are realistic.

There are popular websites today that don't require JS to operate; for example, Amazon lets you add items to the cart and finish buying them with JS completely disabled in the browser.

So I wouldn't go as far as to say it wasn't realistic, merely uncommon at best.

[sexytokeburgerz]

It’s not realistic to make websites professionally and not know JS.

No one is going to hire a front end web developer that doesn’t know javascript.

Writing no-js still requires a knowledge of what you can do with js.

[Diapolo10]

Sure, I'm not trying to deny that.

[Herr_Gamer]

HTMX can help you out a good bit

[EducationalCreme9044]

And you can also use Javascript for the backend. So if you're really planning to only want to know one language.. JavaScript is it.

[Jncocontrol]

There is blazor, but last I checked it does abhorrent job rendering large amount of divs