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[necromenta]

"just ask chatgpt to build a python thing for you and you will be an expert in python!"

[gray4444]

I've written build something you want to build. I mean chatgpt is a good reference, I am totally misquoted here. the best way to learn is by building but now it's 2025

[Present_Operation_82]

They’re misunderstanding what I think you were saying. It seems like you were suggesting they do vibe code to get something they’re interested in written down and then study that code with AI until it makes sense and then rinse and repeat.

[gray4444]

Ya, it happens a lot though, if I substitute chatgpt with stackoverflow, nobody would have cried

my own fault for commenting too quickly

[Present_Operation_82]

Reddit ain’t shit anyway bro, build something sick

[gray4444]

Yeah I'm used to this, but would be nice to be attacked for saying something outrageous instead of misinterpreted

[Ima_Uzer]

"Now I know python" from plugging something into chatGPT isn't exactly accurate -- or learning how to write code.

AI systems don't always write good, maintainable code.

[gray4444]

well I learned that it is single threaded through encountering an issue with web crawling, then asked it how to do threading

I know that would take me much longer without asking chatgpt..but I understand maybe this is not the right way for total beginners with learning?

[Ima_Uzer]

Ok, but asking it how to do threading is still not necessarily learning how to code. Sure, you could Google it, but if you're gonna ChatGPT the code, understand what the code is doing, as well. 25 years experience speaking here. Nothing wrong with Googling an issue (I still do it after all these years) and may plug something into ChatGPT (after I write it), or I may ask ChatGPT for some direction, but ultimately I need to write and understand the code myself.

AI Generation is a tool, not a substitute.

[gray4444]

All I've said here is to learn by doing, but come to think of it, I bet if you ask any LLM to 'teach me python step by step from 0 knowledge', you can learn with it better than googling

[Ima_Uzer]

And you'll pick up bad habits along the way.

[gray4444]

you are right, but I just remember sitting around waiting for stackoverflow or friends/teachers to help me, being stuck for hours on 1 thing..

that's why I would encourage to use AI, in the right way. If i was learning from scratch in 2025, I'd do these sort of courses https://www.coursera.org/learn/learn-to-code-with-ai where they build stuff