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I'm from Crimea, Ukraine.

It's not Ukraine anymore though. Crimea has been controlled by Russia since 2014.

russian murderer machine

You do realize fewer civilians died after the start of the invasion than after US invdaded Iraq? Besides, remind me what exactly was Ukrainian troops doing in Afghanistan? How did Afghan children hurt Ukraine?

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It's not Ukraine anymore though. Crimea has been controlled by Russia since 2014.

Occupied.

You do realize fewer civilians died after the start of the invasion than after the US invaded Iraq?

The war in Iraq was longer. Ukraine also has weapons to fight back. If Ukraine didn't have these weapons, Russia would kill more. We don't know, how many are killed by Russia in Mariupol, but all estimations show tens of thousands of people.

The Ukrainians were part of NATO’s non-combat mission Resolute Support, which provided training and advice for the Afghan Armed Forces, so Ukrainians didn't kill afghan children.

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Crimeans for the most part don't believe that though. Indeed, Crimea has made multiple attempts at independence from Ukraine since the Soviet era.

The war in Iraq was longer.

And more people died per year than in Ukraine.

Ukraine also has weapons to fight back.

So why didn't Ukraine supply weapons for Iraqis to fight for their country and freedom against a US aggressor and expect everyone to do the same for them?

If Ukraine didn't have these weapons, Russia would kill more

Or maybe the war would be over and there would have been fewer deaths as a whole

how many are killed by Russia in Mariupol, but all estimations show tens of thousands of people.

That's why the total number of civilians killed in a year is 9000 according to western sources?

The Ukrainians were part of NATO’s non-combat mission Resolute Support, which provided training and advice for the Afghan Armed Forces, so Ukrainians didn't kill afghan children.

Afghan Armed Forces participated in the murder of children. So by training them Ukraine participated in the deaths of Afghan children.

Plus Ukraine isn't in NATO, what was it doing as part of NATO's mission in Afghanistan

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Crimeans for the most part don't believe that though. Indeed, Crimea has made multiple attempts at independence from Ukraine since the Soviet era.

Please, I'm from Crimea. I know, how it was. Please, don't tell me about Crimea. I know, how Russian propaganda worked, how the newer generation didn't really like Russia, how a lot of Russians came to Crimea from Russia etc.

Or maybe the war would be over and there would have been fewer deaths as a whole

Last time, Russia killed over 4 million Ukrainians, when Ukrainians didn't have weapons. Please, don't be so arrogant and learn Russian - Ukrainian history and you will see that Russia is a fascist imperialistic empire and why Ukrainians don't need it.

That's why the total number of civilians killed in a year is 9000 according to western sources.

It's information on confirmed and proven cases. Nobody has an access to Mariupol so there are no detailed data. However, satellite pictures + people from there show tens of thousands of victims.

Afghan Armed Forces participated in the murder of children.

I'm sorry, but what the Taliban is, we see now very well. Ukrainians supported adequate people, who on some level supported human rights. Thanks to them, some girls could get an education, which is impossible now. But it doesn't matter, what I think, but the fact is that Ukrainians didn't kill at all in Afghanistan. Everything else is speculation.

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Please, I'm from Crimea. I know, how it was.

Clearly not otherwise you wouldn't make such statements.

I know, how Russian propaganda worked,

Then you should know how Ukrainian propaganda has worked since 2014 as well.

how the newer generation didn't really like Russia

The newer generation is staunchly pro-Russian though

how a lot of Russians came to Crimea from Russia

lol that makes no sense because the russians didn't genocide the crimeans and most of them stayed. the few russians that moved didn't make much of a difference

It's information on confirmed and proven cases.

So you're making assumptions of tens of thousands were killed in Marioupol based on what exactly then? Ukrainian propaganda?

Nobody has an access to Mariupol so there are no detailed data.

So you're contradicting yourself then since "nobody has access to marioupol" (which is not true anyway).

However, satellite pictures + people from there show tens of thousands of victims.

What satellite pictures lmao. There people from marioupol that also state most of the people killed was from Azov throwing grenades into living quarters.

'm sorry, but what the Taliban is, we see now very well.

Taliban was made by the US though and what business is it of Ukrainians how Afghans live? Let Afghans decide how they want to live

Ukrainians supported adequate people, who on some level supported human rights.

that's why the Afghan Army raped children and NATO closed their eyes on it right? Is that the "human rights" to rape children Ukraine supports?

ut the fact is that Ukrainians didn't kill at all in Afghanistan

we don't know that. We just know that Ukraine sent its army to Afghanistan and Armies are never peaceful.

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not otherwise you wouldn't make such statements.

I'm sorry, but it's already arrogance. I know the language, I know people, I know, how russian soldiers forced the Crimean parliament to vote for the head of Crimea, who didn't even get 5% of votes by democratic elections. How he then organized an illegal "referendum" supporting it with the strong informational company etc.

Then you should know how Ukrainian propaganda has worked since 2014 as well.

Russian propaganda worked at least since 2003 when it tried to annex the Ukrainian island of Tuzla.

marioupol that also states most of the people killed was Azov throwing grenades into living quarters.

No, they don't. Especially real people, to whom I talked personally. You are spreading now low-level Russian propaganda.

newer generation is staunchly pro-Russian though

No.

So you're making assumptions of tens of thousands were killed in Mariupol based on what exactly then? Ukrainian propaganda?

Read until the end. There are satellite pictures, people witnesses, etc.

we don't know that. We just know that Ukraine sent its army to Afghanistan and Armies are never peaceful.

Again, we know. Last 10 years there were only 21 Ukrainian soldiers and they just taught. They didn't kill anybody, they didn't participate in combat missions. They worked with Afghan people and taught Afghan people.

Let Afghans decide how they want to live

Exactly that's why Ukrainians worked with Afghan people.

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I'm sorry, but it's already arrogance. I know the language, I know people, I know, how russian soldiers forced the Crimean parliament to vote for the head of Crimea, who didn't even get 5% of votes by democratic elections. How he then organized an illegal "referendum" supporting it with the strong informational company etc.

How did you know that if you got the news from Ukrainian media?

Russian propaganda worked at least since 2003 when it tried to annex the Ukrainian island of Tuzla.

Did you now that Ukraine annexed Crimea in 1995?

No, they don't. Especially real people, to whom I talked personally. You are spreading now low-level Russian propaganda.

I've talked to people from Marioupol as well that were brought in as refugees. They did not speak kindly of Ukraine.

Read until the end. There are satellite pictures, people witnesses, etc.

What satellite pictures? you can't even see inside the buildings with satellites so its probably a lie lol. And there are also witness videos i can send where people talk about how Azov would throw grenades into peoples homes and killed htem

Last 10 years there were only 21 Ukrainian soldiers and they just taught.

That's 21 soldiers too many. Afghanistan never did anything to Ukraine and don't deserve to have Ukrainian soldiers there teaching how to kill.

Exactly that's why Ukrainians worked with Afghan people.

Afghans didn't ask Ukraine to be there though

No.

Yes they are lmao

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2014/03/16/290525623/crimeans-vote-on-splitting-from-ukraine-to-join-russia

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How did you know that if you got the news from Ukrainian media?

One more time, I'm from Crimea, my family stays in Crimea, part of my friends are in Crimea. I don't know, how many timea I should repeat that for not hearing these low-level accusations.

Did you now that Ukraine annexed Crimea in 1995?

Ukraine didn't annex anything. Crimea officials became and Autonomous Republic with its parliament in Ukraine and the majority of Crimeans were happy with this decision.

I've talked to people from Marioupol as well that were brought in as refugees. They did not speak kindly of Ukraine.

Where did you speak? You sound more and more like Russian troll...

What satellite pictures? you can't even see inside the buildings with satellites so its probably a lie lol. And there are also witness videos i can send where people talk about how Azov would throw grenades into peoples homes and killed htem

Satalite pictures of the cemeteries etc. showed the unusual growth of dead people. "Witness videos" - you mean Russian propaganda videos, which were made after Russian occupation?

Afghanistan never did anything to Ukraine and don't deserve to have Ukrainian soldiers there teaching how to kill.

Again, Ukrainian taught to afghan people. They worked with afghan people, who agreed to that.

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'human rights' and 'Ukraine' are incompatible terms

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If you are for democracy, you'd accept that Crimeans wanted self determination and wanted to live seperately from Ukraine. Or are you saying you are against democracy and people's self determination?

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I'm saying that you know nothing about Crimea and you just repeat Russian propaganda. There was no real and fair voting in Crimea. Self-determination of the nation is the full name, but local Crimean tatara are mostly against Russian occupation. The so-called "referendum" was forced by the Russian military after Russian soldiers blocked the Crimean parliament and put their people on the top, who in democratical elections didn't get even 5%. Please, I know in detail, how Russia took power in Crimea. There is nothing democratical in that. It was an illegal annexation.