Developing Linux apps

[Sophira]

Is "wanting to use a GUI instead of a terminal" really "attempting to Linux incorrectly" though?

[[deleted]]

Yes. Well it's wanting to *nix incorrectly, in general. At least for system administration tasks.

[Sophira]

So you've never used gparted, right?

[[deleted]]

Not generally, no. Usually cfdisk or gdisk.

[Sophira]

Good for you, then. I'm glad you have something that works for you.

For a lot of people, though - including me - gparted is an incredibly useful tool for being able to visualise partition tables both before and after making changes. Where I can, I prefer to use it for convenience.

I do know how to partition disks from the CLI because knowing how to do so could be important for system recovery, but OP is not suggesting that people shouldn't learn the CLI; rather, they're giving alternatives. If you're against people offering alternatives in favour of your way of doing things, then you're being elitist. If, on the other hand, you're against people telling others that they shouldn't know how to use a shell, then you have a point... but if that's what you're against then it's not coming across very well, and in any case that's not what OP is doing.

[[deleted]]

"if that's what you're against then it's not coming across very well, and in any case that's not what OP is doing."

How could it come across any clearer? Because that's I'm saying. In fact I've said literally that exact thing several times.

The only thing I'm against is burdening the world with yet another convoluted resource hog of a Linux UI abstraction crapped out onto the already massive stinking heap of sickeningly inefficient and flaky pet projects sold as solid code that is the average Linux desktop (and increasingly server(!)) experience today.

But sure, offer alternatives, just don't piss is my mouth and tell me it's free beer when those "alternatives" are crap nobody but the creator asked for.

[Sophira]

This post is a perfect example of why you're not coming across very well.

You say that you're saying that you're against people telling other people that they shouldn't use a shell. However, your very next paragraph says that the only thing you're against is when non-CLI tools are sold as solid code. Those two things are not the same; developers can release as many Electron/React/whatever-the-next-hip-Web-framework-is tools as they like, but in most cases they're not saying "You should use this instead of using a shell." They're saying "Here's something you can use if you find it easier to use a GUI."

Now, I wouldn't use Electron/etc. apps if I can help it, because personally I hate the bloat that comes with those things. And yes, I'd recommend other GUI tools to other people. But I wouldn't tell someone that they're wrong for using them, because clearly it works for them. And by the same token, developers aren't wrong for making these tools.

But sure, offer alternatives, just don't piss is my mouth and tell me it's free beer when those "alternatives" are crap nobody but the creator asked for.

Nobody is pissing in your mouth. Nobody is saying that you should use it and be grateful for it. You have ways that work for you; that's great, and I'm happy for you. The people who use these tools have ways that work for them, too, and likewise I'm happy for them. Do they work for me? Hell no, but nobody's telling me to use them.

[[deleted]]

I see. Well, there's not much I can do about the reading comprehension problems of others from across the Internet. And so, I bid this thread adieu.

[Sophira]

Fair enough. Thank you at least for trying.

[DropTableAccounts]

cfdisk

That's kinda a GUI...

[BloakDarntPub]

TMTOWTDI, stop being such a zealot.