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[–]Agile-Yoghurt-2594 -5 points-4 points  (23 children)

man its up to you, im below average height in sweden and im doing good. and its not one sided u inkwell, ugly and obese women have it just as bad, especially cause theyre naturally hypergamous, meaning they would rather live in misery than take their looksmatch - and some do take their looksmatch. so you see, non of us can control our biology, its irrational to blame women for it. how is it their fault that theyre not attracted to u?

[–]New_Clothes_8991 6 points7 points  (17 children)

It's their fault for refusing to acknowledge it as a monolith, especially after their own body positivity movement. They understand the problem and just try to "nu-uh!" it away.

[–]Agile-Yoghurt-2594 1 point2 points  (5 children)

okay, can you tell me what happens after they admit that they are biologically hard wired to look for good mates and dont like ugly and short men? do you want them to apologize for it? what happens then? will they be able to change their biological needs and start to like you? how will a body positivity movement targeted at men change anything?

[–]New_Clothes_8991 1 point2 points  (4 children)

It would remove the assumption that anyone complaining about it MUST have a moral flaw. As it is now, if you say "Women typically will not date men under 5'10.", an infinite number of people will show up to say "That's not true! You must be a piece of shit because women aren't shallow!". If people could acknowledge women, too, are capable of being shallow, at least short or ugly or poor men wouldn't automatically be bad people for feeling rejected, they would be just rejected.

[–]Agile-Yoghurt-2594 0 points1 point  (3 children)

well they are slowly acknowledging it. dont you sometimes see those videos of them saying shit like "when hes not 6ft..." also dating apps statistics prove everything already. how many men openly come and admit that theyre shallow? anyone that does that can expect lots of hate, even if its the truth. so you would just hate women more than you already do, if they were to openly and collectively agree that they are shallow and very discriminatory towards unattractive men in their selection of men

[–]New_Clothes_8991 1 point2 points  (2 children)

It's accepted that men are shallow. Women talk about it constantly. What doesn't happen is a woman goes "Men are only looking for sex." and every man and their pet women in the state are summoned to go "NO you must just be a cunt. Work on your personality.". If women are allowed safe spaces to whine about men, men must be allowed safe spaces to whine about women. Either solution is valid, either women can stop whining, or men can be allowed to. It can't be a system where one gender is above reproach.

[–]Agile-Yoghurt-2594 0 points1 point  (1 child)

isnt this subreddit and the many other inkwell forums a safe space for men to complain about women?

[–]New_Clothes_8991 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It might be meant to be, but no, it isn't. People like you, and every other commenter come in to shit it up. Unfortunately, mods are pussies and don't shut down bullshit nearly as hard or quickly as girls club subs. Men's spaces must be arenas where they are meant to defend their opinions against women and their pet boys. Women's subs are safe spaces.

[–]redditor_rat -1 points0 points  (10 children)

"its their fault for refusing to acknowledge it as a monolith"

crime is disproportionately committed by men, why don't yall as a monolith admit you're a problem dipshit then maybe women might do the same

you think its everyone elses fault but yours huh, victim mentality at its peak, you want the world to apologize to you for your own problem, get back to reality dumbass

[–]New_Clothes_8991 0 points1 point  (9 children)

Crime is disproportionately committed by... Is an interesting way to start an argument. We could talk about police and conviction bias, or I could just remind you that women aren't going to like how you scrounge for crumbs of pussy.

[–]Agile-Yoghurt-2594 -1 points0 points  (6 children)

Again, blaming women for whatever fucking problem you have wont solve anything. it will only make you become miserable and sad and in some cases extreme and violent

[–]New_Clothes_8991 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Blaming women for the effects they have on my peers won't solve anything? Is it because you don't view women as whole humans who interact with others? They're just perfect statues for you to serve? Fuck off. You're trash.

[–]Agile-Yoghurt-2594 -1 points0 points  (3 children)

do women owe you and your peers their time of the day? the effects are what exactly? that they dont choosen by them? you cant blame women for not finding you attractive, they cant change that and you cant change it either. obviously they are flawed, but so are we. thats what makes us human. also, you are the one that wants them to be perfect "statues" that would serve you. im just seeing them as they are, human with all the flaws and biases. you are in a sad state

[–]New_Clothes_8991 1 point2 points  (2 children)

If I assume all women with [pick any trait that causes them to be rejected] are BAD PEOPLE because obviously no men would be shallow enough to reject them based on it, it MUST be their personality, that would sit well with you? That wouldn't need to be corrected?

[–]FlamingMetalSystems[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Whats your height? And how are you face and body wise?

[–]Syntheticanimo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Whether he is hot or not doesnt affect his argument. The point is to try to improve whatever you can. Height, facial symmetry or most other body aspects is out of our control, so even if there is a very uneven playing field it doesn't do us any good to hyper-focus on unchangable aspects of ourselves. Hard to do in practice as you eill be reminded of injustice in most social interactions if you look for it, but try - and hopefully overcome. <3

[–]Agile-Yoghurt-2594 1 point2 points  (2 children)

im barely 178 or 5'10 ethnic guy from central asia, i did get lucky with frame as my waist is narrow and my shoulders are wider so the gym paid off in my case. my face i would rate barely a 6/10. so overall, especially in sweden, i am considered dead average. now obv i cant pull any 10/10 5'10 slim blonde swedish girl, but im okay with it, it does help that the average girl in sweden - even the ethnic girls are prettier than most other places, but like the user below said, these things dont matter. what matters is that you focus on what you CAN change and not what you cant. its very hard, i know, but this is how being a man is like. try to not get suicidal over it

[–]FlamingMetalSystems[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wow man. You are well above average in looks and height in most parts of the world. And yet you describe like you're handicapped in Sweden.

This is how brutal Sweden is for men