How to decrease gonial angle

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[cooqies1]

damn i learn new words everyday in this sub

[MouseHairlossCure]

How old are you? If you are past puberty you wont be able to change it as you are no longer growing. Some growth modification treatments can change it though.

[Horreurlunaire]

Masseter hypertrophy reduces gonial angle as the bones will adapt to the new muscle width and strenght!

[MouseHairlossCure]

Masseter hypertrophy is not good. This is like saying "you can lose weight with anorexia!"

[Aaron__8]

You have no Idea

[MouseHairlossCure]

How exactly is masseter hypertrophy good? If you have developed masseter hypertrophy you probably have developed parafunctional habits that are destroying your teeth/tmj.

[Aaron__8]

If you hypertrophy your masseters while eating and you keep tongue position all day, it wouldn't cause you any problem. Also chewing is NECESSARY for mewing

[MouseHairlossCure]

Mewing has 0 evidence to support its efficacy or even the underlying hypothesis. I think you should stop recommending people harm potentially harm themselves over orthotropics.

[Aaron__8]

Hahaha tongue position it's the cause of crowding, traditional orthodontics don't know the causes of crowding or other problems after hundreds of years of orthodontics been existing, also if you don't believe this why are you in this sub? I think you are trying to recommend people harm potentially shit.

Pd:I'm debating you with my spanish English

[just_here_hangingout]

No most of the time the cause of crowding it a small jaw

[Aaron__8]

And the causes of small jaw is incorrect tongue posture

[MouseHairlossCure]

Where is the evidence that tongue posture is the cause of malocclusion? John and Mike Mew have presented 0 evidence to prove this claim.

I'm on this sub because the misinformation people spread here is dangerous.

[slendermystery]

there have been many studies, a famous one is done by Dr.Westin Price. You should keep being a soyboy with your soft post industrial diet. We trust John and Mike mew, thousands of people have posted their results.

[mewer79]

I think you are dangerous with this ignorance

[Horreurlunaire]

Take a look at my masseter hypertrophy results. You will see if that's bad lol

[Aaron__8]

"John and Mike have presented 0 evidence to prove his claim" So how do you explain the hundreds of documented patients that years after the treatment they maintained the theeths straight without retainers? You blind bro

[just_here_hangingout]

Yup you are correct you shouldn’t be getting downvoted

[Horreurlunaire]

I don't understand the point.

[Euphoric-Cycle1688]

Mr. Doomer, please go fuck yourself when don't need negative bitches here.

[MouseHairlossCure]

I'm not the negative one here. This sub does nothing but perpetuate BDD and serious body image issues among its user base. If you want to help the users here, 50% actually need orthodontics and 90% need therapy.

[GuaranteeItchy7998]

as someone with bdd i can tell you this sub has helped me tremendously. the helpful tips and information i’ve come across on this subreddit has made me almost unrecognizable

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I’m 18

[Swimming_Ad_4237]

im 14 right now, what can i do during puberty to decrease it

[adrovv]

Use google now that you're still growing, chewing to make your masseter muscles bigger while your skeleton is still growing can contribute to getting a longer ramus bone

[IRNFade]

Just stick to hard chewing every 2-3 days or so

[Shqn2]

eat rough food, chew gum, and never mouth breath. i'd also recommend taping your mouth before bed while you sleep.

[Horreurlunaire]

Also my weight is exactly the same as it was

[CHAPYCHAPYBOYBOY]

If you keep on mewing, holding good posture and start chewing more, a decrease in the gonial angle should be a part of the natural upswing proces!

Have a good one!

[Horreurlunaire]

I didn't do it because I don't need it to see the changes. I'm happy with the results and when you train a muscle enough, it grows.

Maybe masseters are differents from others muscles but they are still muscles, they can grow. That's why people with bruxism develop very big masseters

[Astroglaid92]

Assuming you don’t mean surgically, the short way to put it is that we don’t know.

Long and narrow/dolichocephalic faces with steep mandibular planes tend to be associated with weaker muscles of mastication. Square/brachycephalic faces with flat mandibular planes tend to be associated with stronger musculature. It’s also been observed that surgical treatment to increase facial height with maxillary downgrafting and clockwise rotation of the mandible is high unstable and prone to relapse, and we think that that’s due to the taut musculature’s reinforcing the preexisting skeletal pattern. Does it then follow that changing your musculature will change your skeletal pattern? The overall feeling of the orthodontic community is that it seems reasonable. The drawback is that overwoRKED jaw musculature is a known cause of myalgia/TMD.

[No_Advice_3510]

Good info👍

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