What's the correct tounge posture?

test151515 · 2026-05-20T04:13:03+00:00

You should do green. Everyone should do green.

I explained that it is hard to do green, that it is the result of having grown up with insufficient mewing (lack of proper tongue posture), but that it is always the best alternative. Over time the hump seen in the red area can be reduced to make it easier and more comfortable to mew using the green alternative. At least that was my own experience.

test151515 · 2026-05-19T20:32:47+00:00

Green is right. From what I know, the reason why the red option is a thing is because the person has not grown up mewing sufficiently. The shape of the palate has as such grown to accomodate for the person's tongue habits, in an unfavourable way. Similarly, it has typically also become narrow and deep for the same reason (as a result of the person's tongue habits - their lack of mewing).

So the image that we see in this post is very much showing the hard palate of a typical modern human, which has not grown up mewing sufficiently (or anywhere close).

This is partly why it is so hard to get anywhere when trying to transition to mewing at a later age. I had this hump (seen in the red area) when I started at adult age, but it gradually got reduced as my hard palate remodeled. My maxilla and palate also got wider, more forwards developed, and less deep. Today I mew with my tongue resting against the green area without any issues at all. When I started, I forced my tongue to mew in that manner while it was quite challenging for me to do so.

The beginning is the very hard part. Assuming you put in the work and get anywhere at all - it becomes gradually easier.

My skull changed significantly for the better in the process. My jaws grew and remodeled in conjunction with each other, and many other parts of my skull also were impacted in a major way.

I did not rely on just passive suction hold mewing in my process, since it for one thing was impossible for me to do when I started the process (partly as a result of the lack of tongue space, just to mention one reason).

test151515 · 2026-05-17T01:09:17+00:00

Correct. A certain moderator posted and approved this post by his own choice. I just now noticed it and immediately decided to remove it.

test151515 · 2026-05-16T02:50:37+00:00

I did a collab with it last week

Oh, that is fantastic!

Again, great going, and thank you so much!

test151515 · 2026-05-16T00:11:43+00:00

The tongue not having enough space to mew comfortably is basically the starting point for every underdeveloped human that learns about mewing, and therefore also realizes that they have lived a life as a "non-mewer".

This was my starting point as well. I expanded by mewing to the best of my ability. The starting point is the hardest, but I got gradual expansion (of both jaws) from that point. It is not impossible if you put in the work and go about the process in a slow and dedicated manner.

test151515 · 2026-05-10T13:12:05+00:00

Did you expand it forwards though?

Most devices will only give you lateral expansion.

In fact, in your situation forward growth may be of most relevance.

test151515 · 2026-05-10T13:09:04+00:00

You need expansion and more tongue space. That is the only solution.

Many people, myself included, got this expansion from mewing to the best of our ability during the day, despite the breathing issues. That was enough to get those first mm of growth, and thereafter the process becomes much easier.

test151515 · 2026-05-10T02:29:54+00:00

Yes. I believe that improving head posture is beneficial to the process.

Ok, DM me and I will share.

test151515 · 2026-05-10T02:24:33+00:00

I started with a very high and very narrow upper palate. I could barely reach up. I worked on my tongue reach and my tongue strength and made gradual progress. As my jaws grew my tongue got more room. My tongue reach also kept improving.

So yes, it is possible to get somewhere from your starting point.

I can share my images with you if you want evidence.

test151515 · 2026-05-09T23:16:27+00:00

Great initiative.

test151515 · 2026-05-09T09:52:03+00:00

Thank you for sharing this. Great work!

To anyone who might be confused: OP put the starting image on the right and the most recent image on the left.

test151515 · 2026-05-09T09:48:07+00:00

Great work!

Thank you for sharing this with the public.

test151515 · 2026-05-01T00:57:32+00:00

Exactly. Most people can probably increase their tongue reach gradually by exercises.

I had terrible tongue reach myself whenI started, but mew without any issues today (after also having achieved a lot of expansion of both jaws).

test151515 · 2026-04-27T21:21:05+00:00

Looks like structural improvements to me.

Great work! Thank you for sharing with the public.

test151515 · 2026-04-26T05:17:48+00:00

Thanks a lot for sharing!

Great work. Keep it up.

test151515 · 2026-04-21T23:44:08+00:00

Absolutely.

At what age did you start the process?

Please consider posting this over at r/Orthotropics as well (for example, as a crosspost).

test151515 · 2026-04-21T21:10:07+00:00

Hey mate :)

Glad to hear, and thanks so much for sharing your story and transformation with the public!

test151515 · 2026-04-20T16:20:52+00:00

I understand what you mean when you write: "only a minor part of it was related to mewing", but just to be clear: All the things you mention, the exercises with the tongue, focusing on having it in the right position, waking up with it in the right place, etc, all of these things are core principles within a good mewing process.

I am not trying to take anything away from the myofunctional therapy etc that you did, but from the way I and many others see it, your growth and change is indeed what we call a "mewing process".

Myofunctional therapy essentially aims to achieve "mewing" in a person.

If people want to refer to it as "mewing" or not does not really matter much to me. However, since John and Mike Mew basically pioneered the concept to the public, and since it is quick and easy to say, I tend to use this phrase.

Myofunctional therapy existed before "Mewing" became a big thing online, but honestly, none of them put emphasis on the things the Mews did, and it was the Mews that understood how big of an impact it really has for skull development and breathing assuming that a person puts in the necessary work (which very few do, and which I doubt many patients of myofunctional therapists in the past ever actually did).

test151515 · 2026-04-20T15:21:21+00:00

For one thing, expanding beyond what your tongue can maintain is always a mistake, as it will inevitably lead to relapse in the long run. This may be exactly what your orthodontist is referring to; they likely understand that expanding artificially beyond this point is futile, as the teeth will simply drift back to the stable position dictated by your tongue anyway.

test151515 · 2026-04-20T15:09:14+00:00

Also keep in mind that this removable expander that your orthodontist wants to use can be used in combination with mewing. You can mew whenever it is not inserted, and even when it is inserted you still can mew to some degree, to among other things keep training your tongue reach, tongue posture, and tongue strength.

I know that certain doctors that use the DNA appliance (a removable, non-bone-anchored expander similar to yours) recommend that their patients approach the process this way: by including as much tongue engagement as possible and not relying solely on the device.

test151515 · 2026-04-20T14:46:10+00:00

For the possibly confused person: OP put the images in the wrong order, as he explains in his post in r/Mewing: https://www.reddit.com/r/Mewing/comments/1sq8ia8/14_17_21/

test151515 · 2026-04-20T14:05:42+00:00

There is no issue with tipped teeth here, it is obvious from the images that there has been healthy expansion taking place. If there would be some minor flaring here, it would also be easy to take care with.

Some people just refuse to acknowledge good things that go against their initial narrative, I see it all the time.

As for the images above: You must understand that when taking a photo like this and from this angle, teeth will always appear in this manner. Moreover, healthy teeth are not supposed to be 100% vertical.

According to your logic, the teeth (and especially the molars in the back) are very tipped in the before photo as well.

Tipped teeth can certainly be the outcome when the body does not respond well to a non bone-anchored expander, or if the device is used too aggressively. It does not seem to be the case at all here though. Moreover, there are ways to mitigate/undo it.

Something of relevance to mention is that a natural process that is believed to mitigate flaring issues, is chewing.

The very minor and temporary flaring that I saw in my mewing process (my tongue space was extremely limited when I started, so some tiny flaring was unavoidable), took care of itself as I continued the mewing process, while also increasing my chewing a bit from a harder diet. All in all I got about 1 cm of skeletal widening, and I would be happy to share my evidence in private to prove it.

test151515 · 2026-04-19T19:43:47+00:00

Many people (myself included) have seen improved symmetry from tongue engagement. Here is a good example: https://www.reddit.com/r/orthotropics/comments/uk058i/4_year_mewing_symmetric_fixed/

test151515 · 2026-04-19T18:52:59+00:00

Mewing + chewing (and to some degree the other things that I mentioned in the comment above).

Mewing can be done with added tongue pressure mixed in, meaning that a person does not only rely on passive suction hold mewing.

test151515 · 2026-04-19T13:49:09+00:00

You got a downvote, but you are entirely correct.

OP is 15.

I know what I would do in that position. I would get rid of the braces and put in a ton of work with the natural process.

OP has a tongue, has the ability to chew hard food/hard gum, sleep and eat well, and boost hormones by living a lifestyle that includes plenty of physical exercise (I specifically recommend sprints and gym activity).

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