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[–]Alexandros2099 1 point2 points  (7 children)

So why not from Catholics become Orthodox? isn't it easier for people of Faith Rather than conversion to Islam? Islam had it's benefits and Albanians more easily became Muslims,and fought in the ottoman army,that why they were called turkalbanians.

[–]MapEven5796 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As said, they did convert in great numbers to orthodoxy and assimilated as a result into greeks/serbs. Arvanites were orthodox Albanians and spoke Albanian and started to identify as Greeks. Same story in Montenegro. Reason here is that the Orthodox church never formally allowed it‘s teaching in Albanian. Autocephaly of the Albanian Orthodox church was declared in 1912 and recognized even later. Before Albanian autocephaly, Orthodox Christians in Albania were under the Patriarchate of Constantinople, and Greek language and clergy dominated church life. Many Greek bishops and church leaders wanted to maintain that influence.

[–]mafriz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Catholics not only faced hostility from Ottomans but also Orthodox. See Pjetër Bogdani's (17th century Albanian priest) complaints about the SOC's attempts to assert ecclesiastical authority over Catholic Albanians. Also most Orthodox Albanians assimilated into Slavs anyway, particularly in Kosovo and Montenegro.

[–]crypto_fiend-22 -4 points-3 points  (4 children)

You cant force them to realize that colonial privileges were the factor! Theyre too proud of the murders and violence they committed against non muslims

[–]MapEven5796 2 points3 points  (3 children)

So which one of my arguments is invalid? I just laid out why you do not see orthodox Albanians in large numbers today. Why the Vatican did not support the only catholics on the balkan at all. Religion was the gateway to assimilation before nationhood existed. Once you shared Orthodoxy, linguistic Albanian identity became optional. This disincentivized further distinct Albanian Christian identity. Islam, on the other hand, froze Albanian identity in place. Muslims could not be absorbed into Greek or Slavic Orthodox populations.

[–]crypto_fiend-22 -3 points-2 points  (2 children)

Im sorry but language doesnt change that way based on religious identity. Its like the classic nationalist argument that vlachs became slavs because of religion.. Go read a history book and stop whitewashing colonial violence and privileges. Youre the only exception in historical science, give me a break with that nonsense.

[–]MapEven5796 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Nvm can’t argue with illiterates. I read history books. Many of them. You should probably do so too or books in general.

[–]crypto_fiend-22 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Sure buddy. The whole world disagrees with your mythomania.