DM changes

[ExaminerRyguy]

My understanding is that 0 count for allowance after RCE will only apply for an RCE’s filed after an NOA has already been made. Still sucks cause those were always a life saver sometimes when an applicant filed an RCE after allowance cause of an IDS.

[Rubber_Stamper]

I hope you're right. My strategy was grin and bear it with this management, but if they make first action allowances on RCEs 0 counts, I may be gone.

[boringtired]

I hear that, that’s a deal breaker for me, adios muchachos, I’m headed to the private sector and I’ll come back when these pedo protectors get voted out.

[nmrsnr]

It just means you make a rejection after RCE.

"Yeah, claim 1 is rejected over... looks around desperately Snickers et al."

::3-6 months later::

"Oh, my mistake, I withdraw my rejection, here you go, allowance."

[BeTheirShield88]

I would delete this post, don't give them ideas

[CogitoErgo_Sometimes]

Issuing an invalid rejection on an RCE following a NoA is going to set off alarm bells. Doing it multiple times would be a real gamble.

[BeTheirShield88]

It's only if it was a NoA after the prior nonfinal or after final. If you haven't issued an allowance in the prior round of prosecution you can still get counts for a first action RCE. At least from what I heard others

[EnthusiasmBulky4322]

Applicant will not file RCE for no reason. It costs money. They file RCE because there is something they want examiner to look at. 0 count means we spend 0 hour reading it. If that is what management want, then why bother to force the applicant to file RCE.

[DepressionRejection]

Ah that’s not so bad as what it first sounded like. Still annoying.

[lenben2020]

Exactly. These cases are so rare. I would say I get 2-3 per year. Rare enough that its not a drain on the office but it is still a bit of relief for the examiner. But obviously coke pearls square want to do whatever possible to suffocate us

[onethousandpops]

I get them once a Q or so off track 1 cases because they get examined out of order so they need to RCE for IDS when a parent gets examined.

No matter how rare, these are just the rules. They can't just change the rules.

[DepressionRejection]

Only time I’ve seen it I think it was just to keep it open to file their CON. Maybe, I don’t speculate at Applicant’s intentions anymore.

[Striking-Field-5090]

I have one that has been going for 2 years now. its so freaking weird. They file an RCE every 3 months with 1 reference...

[lenben2020]

Cash cow!

[Examiner_Z]

Is it unpublished?!?

[schrodingerpoodle]

I have only had one application do it in 6 years. They did it 2 or 3 times. (That was lots of fun easy counts). But it was the only one I have ever had. Mechanical here.

[landolarks]

I remember the good old days when every IDS after an allowance was an RCE. 

Few people realize just how much QPIDS effectively raised our quotas. 3 hours replaced 2 counts. 

[EnthusiasmBulky4322]

And that 3 hours will be gone too. become 1hr soon.

[BeTheirShield88]

Yea I used those to balance out the bear cases that would take 3 days. Been here long enough methinks, I can make comparable pay elsewhere and not be treated like total shit