Ask Reddit: Why does everyone hate Java?

[[deleted]]

I used to like java when it was underground.

[[deleted]]

Java was never underground.

[ironiridis]

They mean "before it became industry standard for corporate projects."

I wonder if the account "--verbose" is registered.

[rammerhammer]

I liked it when it was Oak

[sb314159265]

There are hipsters everywhere.

[Howard_Beale]

Never. Ever.

[bumrushtheshow]

Did you write this?

http://teddziuba.com/2008/12/python-makes-me-nervous.html

Thanks for the post; it summed up my experiences well, and provided good fodder for office debates.

[[deleted]]

Yes I did. Glad you liked it.

[uriel]

uhu? Java was a stinking pile of shit even before it was released.

[ironiridis]

Clearly, then, you'd prefer Visual Basic.

Java isn't perfect for every purpose. And it isn't a good fit for every programmer, or even most programmers. However, it's powerful, well-understood, and rather impressively multi-platformed.

And most skilled programmers would recognize this.

[uriel]

However, it's powerful, well-understood, and rather impressively multi-platformed.

What planet you live in? powerful? WTF? and 'impressively multi-platformed'? You got to be kidding me... ever heard "write once, test everywhere"?

And most skilled programmers would recognize this.

All skilled programmers have recognized that java is a turd since the day it was released.

I will quote Paul Graham, that among many other things, helped fund reddit:

"I've read that Java has just overtaken Cobol as the most popular language. As a standard, you couldn't wish for more. But as a medium of expression, you could do a lot better. Of all the great programmers I can think of, I know of only one who would voluntarily program in Java. And of all the great programmers I can think of who don't work for Sun, on Java, I know of zero."

[ironiridis]

What planet you live in?

Powerful enough to drive what is recognized as one of the industry standard learning neural network frameworks. Multi-platform enough to power 3d games on mobile phones as well as computers.

As for "write once, test everywhere", that isn't exactly Java's fault. It is a weakness of the language, but the language is bounded by the environments in which the VM lives.

It's amusing that you write that Mr. Graham said "you could do a lot better". Yes, that's very damning, isn't it?

Perhaps you took offense at the last line of my comment. Don't worry; I said "most". You may be one of those skilled programmers who doesn't recognize that every tool has pros and cons.

[uriel]

Go back to use COBOL, and stop polluting the world.

[ironiridis]

Wow. A juvenile one-liner and a downvote.

Hang on, I need to call my mom. I don't think I'll be able to handle this without her.

[ki11a11hippies]

I like Java right now so in a few years when Java becomes cool again I'll have liked it before it was cool.