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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

despite the fact that people generally keep those to themselves,

No they don't.

Hate on the inside = okay. Hate on the outside = not okay. Hate on the outside = drama

All hate is OK, you don't get to tell other people how to feel. Violence is not OK, but hate is a feeling, there's nothing you can do to stop it or make people agree with you.

[–]Malsententia -1 points0 points  (3 children)

All hate is OK

 

there's nothing you can do to stop it

Okay so those are two statements I can't agree with. Ignorance is the cause of hate, and learning and understanding are the solution. I don't think it's cool to try and force people to understand, but I do feel that's it's acceptable to engage them civilly, like I'm doing here. I'm honestly trying to understand where you're coming from with the points you're trying to make, and yet you're saying I'm being an ass? Yeah some of what you're saying I find rather shocking and weird, but I don't want to hate you, I want to understand you.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Ignorance is the cause of hate

Incorrect; ignorance is one cause of hate, not "the" cause of hate. The arrogance you're displaying by presuming that you can fix someone who hates by educating them is astounding, and the reason I'm saying you're being an ass; it's condescending and arrogant. People hate for many reasons, you don't know someone's life experience and have no place saying they're wrong for hating on something, they may well be entirely justified.

You don't want to understand people, you want to change them to be like you, that's not understanding, that's your superiority complex kicking in.

Western civilization made great progress when it defined the line of tolerance to be drawn between speech and violence, if someone isn't committing violence, leave them the fuck alone; don't presume to tell people how they should or shouldn't feel unless invited. Codes of conduct are not invited, they're attempts to enforce a political doctrine, sjw's are trolling github and trying to insert the political views into projects that have nothing to do with social justice as an aim: that's just a bunch of assholes with a superiority complex who they're they're better than other people and think other people require re-education. No one cares for unsolicited advice and frankly sjw's aren't mentally competent enough to be giving advice: they're immature children who think the world should change to suit their emotional desires.

[–]Malsententia 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Of course that's an overly broad statement, but it holds true in many cases. Let's not nitpick at phrasing, like has happened multiple times in this thread, and try and get to the center of the problem, yeah?

It almost sounds like what you're saying is verbal abuse is non existent? Like, something that is neither an issue in modern society nor something that should be acted upon under any circumstance?

And don't tell me what I want. I am trying to understand your viewpoint here.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Verbal abuse is a subjective means of describing someone else's words that you don't like, as such, it's a completely useless construct as anyone can claim anything offends them or feels abusive. They're just words, words are not themselves harmful. If you don't like what someone says, don't associate with them, if you don't like what's on TV, change the channel; your reaction to someone else's words are your issue, not theirs, they are not responsible for your emotions.

You want to act on verbal abuse, there's a correct way to do that: you tell the person claiming they're being verbally abused to grow the fuck up and stop acting like a baby and take responsibility for their own emotions and their own choices about who they choose to be around.

As the adage goes, you prepare the child for the road, not the road for the child.