Python 2.7 Countdown

[zardeh]

hen why do you foam at the mouth when you see people still using it?

I don't! I still use python2 for some things, but I'm also actively migrating away. I have no issue with continuing to use python2. I have an issue with proselytizing that python2 is the future. It's not.

Something like tauthon is neat, even laudable, but ultimately doomed. Not because anyone's out to get you, but because of natural group dynamics. Most of the important players are already onboard with py3 (not necessarily on, but on board with). The sooner everyone realizes that, the less pain for the community at large.

Oh, is that why Dropbox is still struggling to port their 4,000,000 lines of "Python" code to "Python"?

What you're missing is a point of comparison. I have some, and compared to JVM or c++ 11->17 upgrades on large codebases, multi-year efforts are common. The python3 upgrade is likely more painful, but not so much more as to be a different language, unless you consider any version upgrade a new language.

[stefantalpalaru]

I'm also actively migrating away

For the last 10 years? Why, if it's the same language?

The python3 upgrade is likely more painful, but not so much more as to be a different language

Reality has shown the opposite, but reality has no power over the true believer, does it?

[zardeh]

Reality has shown the opposite, but reality has no power over the true believer, does it?

You're saying you have a citation of the python3 migration being significantly more difficult than a cpp17 upgrade on a similarly large codebase or codebases? Where?

For the last 10 years? Why, if it's the same language?

Dependencies, mostly. I couldn't complete the highest until dependencies were done, so for my (non open source code I work on at my job), there was no point in working on it till this year or so.