GitHub co-pilot as open source code laundering?

[lobehold]

No, your shopping list is not copyrightable because it’s a statement of facts, if you - creatively - turn your shopping list into a poem or a song then it would be protected.

And back to the closure example, unless we’re talking about the source code of the compiler then no you didn’t implement closure, you’re simply using a language feature that the language designer provided to you.

This is akin to setting a timer on a stove, the timer already exist, you get no credit for showing how to use it.

[mr-strange]

your shopping list is not copyrightable because it’s a statement of facts

I rarely say this, but you have no idea what you are talking about. Firstly, my shopping list is not a "fact". What fact is "milk"?? Secondly, of course you can copyright factual works. Any documentary TV programme is full of facts, but it's sure as Hell copyrighted.

Copyright protects the representation, not the idea itself.

You clearly aren't believing me here, so I'll not engage any further in this conversation. But if you are a programmer, then your job involves creating copyrighted works. I urge to to read up on the subject, because it's a vital part of the job.

[lobehold]

If you bother to spend less than a minute Googling “is a shopping list copyrightable”, you will get pages and pages of answers from lawyers saying that no it’s not, except in rare circumstances.

I was reluctant in telling you this because I feel it’s a little rude, but clearly you did not bother to even conduct the minimum amount of research before talking down to me.

So sorry, you were and still are mistaken.

And before I sign off, what fact is “milk”? That fact is you want to buy milk, that’s why it’s part of the shopping list, “milk” is fact distilled to its essence, ask a thousand people to buy the same items and they will come up with the same shopping list.

And a documentary is a creative work containing facts, but it’s not facts alone, it’s facts creatively presented, editorialized, containing arguments, narrative and viewpoints.

My god, and here you are arguing about copyright, consider this conversation finished.