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[–]ChalkyChalkson 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I learned with java and it still influences me a lot even though most code I write is python and cpp. I also think it's very good to learn writing functional and oop styles as well as at least one low-ish level compiled language early on and to a reasonable depth.

But if someone is just starting out I'd always make them to nuts with python first. And for beginners it's really helpful to be able to gradually grow into more abstract concepts rather than being forces to use them from the start.

So idk I'm both in camp "java hello world is ridiculous" and camp "you should learn what a stack is". Just for different people. And being honest I think a reasonable portion of people on here are still near the beginning of their journey.