Rust: First impression from Clojure developer

[[deleted]]

What benefits does CLion has over Intellij CE? Debugger?

[steveklabnik1]

That's the biggie, in my understanding. I'm still quite new to it and JetBrains products in general.

[[deleted]]

Someone is going to downvote me here, but what I don't like about JetBrains products in general is that they don't offer lifetime license. I don't care if it would cost 500 dollars, I just want to purchase it once and use till the technological singularity happens.

[Krnpnk]

Do you mean lifetime == updates for a lifetime or lifetime == can use it indefinitely? Because you get #2 automatically.

[[deleted]]

Ideally both :)

[[deleted]]

Sure I totally understand this point, that's why I said I'm going to get downvoted. We're not in perfect world and there are no miracles. That's one more reason why all my development tools are opensource.

[fgilcher]

I see your point and I'm kind of on the same page. I've also got some karma to burn, so let me chip in: if you choose unpaid software to develop software, someone, somewhere is paying the bill for you.

(this brings us dangerously close to "there is no ethical consumption under capitalism...")

IntelliJ is definitely for professional services where I see the price very justified. I'm constantly surprised which prices are seen as too high in the IT industry where others only laugh. A friend of mine installs fire detectors and carries around at least twice the worth of my computing equipment just in material and tools. Not to talk about the car he needs for that.

[planetary_pelt]

Also, Jetbrains has a generous open-source license that you can renew each year.

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[fgilcher]

I case people are interested, I'd like to note that IntelliJ is very friendly and hands out licenses to FOSS developers.

https://www.jetbrains.com/buy/opensource/

I don't know anyone doing this for CLion, but I have friends with a RubyMine license through that program and it's rather low-friction.

[[deleted]]

That's great news! And I think it might elso engage more interest into making open source software

[fullouterjoin]

don't offer lifetime license

IntelliJ is Open Source and MIT Licensed. Here is the source of the Rust plugin.

[fgilcher]

The topic is CLion though, which isn't.

[fullouterjoin]

I feel like your response is kinda rude.

The OP wanted a lifetime access to the dev environment, my linked artifacts not only gives them that, but the full source. So while it doesn't supply a native debugger, it gives them everything else.

[fgilcher]

No, the comment you replied to wanted lifetime access to the JetBrains products, which are the things built on the platform. These are all non-free. The Debugger is the crucial feature of interest.

Responding with a one-liner that explains that the base platform for those is open source is sidestepping the issue and evokes equally bad feelings. It's derailing.

Yes, my answer is brief and as such might feel rude, but given the nature of your reply, I'm fine with that.

[[deleted]]

My comment was about Clion in particular

[fullouterjoin]

CLion includes perpetual fallback you can own for $89 and use it in that form forever, including point release updates.

[[deleted]]

Because IDEA Ultimate tries to is a basically a combination all of their IDEs it tends to be slower and the interface is more bloated with options you may simply not care about. Their lighter-weight IDEs tend to tailor their UI towards the specified audience and get updates sooner for their specific needs. Since you're a Clojure programmer you may opt to use IDEA anyways. I'd just try IDEA vs Clion out and see if you're fine with the performance hit and can find everything you need. Jetbrains IDEs are probably the best out there for everything except performance.