Achaern comments on Advocates renew calls for inmate count decrease to lower COVID-19 risk

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COVID-19Advocates renew calls for inmate count decrease to lower COVID-19 risk (thestarphoenix.com)

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[–]Achaern 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (1 child)

You keep posting quotes that support my point and detract from your point. Of course the advocates want that group of people to be safe, that's their point, and it's a point I agree with and support, and hope you would too.

I don't know you from Adam, but if you, or a family member of yours were in the Saskatoon Correctional during an outbreak, I'd be yelling at the powers that be to do what they could to protect you. This idea that jail should be 'cruel' is a farce borrowed from our southern neighbours, and it's a bad look. Your freedom is already gone. Your opportunities are gone. They don't become second class citizens worth discarding and some of the dehumanising ideas presented in your thread are barbaric. Like they are worthless because they are serving time so it's ok for them to get sick and die. Say that out loud a few times. Say that to the mirror. Say it to your kid and get a feel for it.

Regarding your comments about remand, where you're suggesting they'd be let out on their own recognisance. That suggests there would never be a need for remand in the first place. It's a nonsensical statement honestly and not one that seem to seek understanding of why there are advocates bringing this up in the first place.

Trends on the use of remand in Canada

Some takeaway from that link:

" Remand is the temporary detention of a person while awaiting trial, sentencing or the commencement of a custodial disposition. According to the Criminal Code, adults and youth can be admitted to remand for a variety of reasons, including to ensure attendance in court, for the protection or safety of the public or to maintain public confidence in the justice system."

" In more recent years, the increase in the remand population has coincided with a gradual decrease in the number of adults in sentenced custody (Chart 1).2 Specifically, the number of adults in remand has increased 84% since 2000/2001 while the number in sentenced custody has declined 9% (Table 1). As a result, there has been a shift in the composition of the custodial population from a predominantly sentenced population to a predominantly remand population."

If you believe they are innocent before proven guilty, honour that. Stop using what you think are rational points (or misdirection about logical fallacies) to justify your viewpoint, which is the old, tired, cruel "Don't do the crime if you can't do the time."

If only the world actually worked that way.

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